Hi John,
I was under the understanding that the diagnostic referred to primaries
extending beyond the tertials too. (Not tail tip)
Also feet project past the tail in flight with PGP but not with AGP from what i
remember too. Happy to be corrected by those more experienced though.
There are some photos in the link below from the 2009 Boat Harbour AGP
http://www.pbase.com/davidstowe/american_golden_plover
Cheers
David Stowe
www.davidstowe.com.au
On 10/11/2012, at 8:30 PM, John Graff <> wrote:
>
> Is it not primaries projecting past the tertials? In which case there are 3,
> pretty much diagnostic of PGP? - my initial impression was PGP too, and they
> would be the most likely I would think Cheers,John
>> From:
>> To:
>> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 12:02:06 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Pluvialis ID Required in PNG
>>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I am counting 4 primaries well past the tail tip... wouldn't this coupled
>> with the overall dark appearance and 'Bamby'-face be a cause for pause?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> D.
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 15:43:51 +1100
>>> From:
>>> To:
>>> CC: ;
>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Pluvialis ID Required in PNG
>>>
>>> I think pacific golden plover. As I understand it, the tertials in PGP are
>>> much longer than for AGP, which seems to be indicated by your photos :)
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Dave Torr <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks - yes that works, but I know often you can only see photos on
>>>> Facebook if you join.
>>>>
>>>> On 9 November 2012 14:15, John Graff <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The capital I at the end of the address has been seconded - delete it
>>>> and
>>>>> the the address works :)
>>>>>
>>>>> The bird(s) look like Pacific, an excellent photo shows 3 primaries
>>>>> projecting beyond tertials
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 14:13:40 +1100
>>>>>> From:
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> CC:
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Pluvialis ID Required in PNG
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I couldn't access the photos - maybe one has to be a Facebook member to
>>>>> do
>>>>>> so, which rules me out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9 November 2012 13:29, Jeff Crocombe <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I live on the campus of Pacific Adventist University outside of Port
>>>>>>> Moresby in PNG. Given that there are no birding lists for PNG, I hope
>>>>>>> you'll forgive my email. I am hoping someone can help me with a the
>>>> ID
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the Plovers (Pluvialis sp.) that are currently on campus. Are they
>>>>>>> Pluvialis dominica or Pluvialis fulva? Or have I got it really wrong
>>>> &
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> are Pluvialis squatarola? I have uploaded photos:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151244317599802.480427.802839801&type=1&l=b3a368d332I'd
>>>>>>> appreciate any ID help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jeff Crocombe
>>>>>>>
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