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C&B vs IOC taxonomy

To: "'Michael Ramsey'" <>
Subject: C&B vs IOC taxonomy
From: "Paul G Dodd" <>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:40:47 +1000
Thanks Michael - I had forgotten that one too...

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Ramsey  
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 7:32 AM
To: 
Cc: Nikolas Haass; 
Subject: C&B vs IOC taxonomy

Hi Paul IOC split the Ground Parrot into western and eastern species as
well. 

Michael Ramsey 

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On 14/06/2012, at 7:23 AM, "Paul G Dodd" <> wrote:

> Thanks Nikolas, that was the list that I was using - however, now I have
> some further concerns.
> 
> 
> 
> A number of people have told me that the Quail-thrush splits I mentioned
> have been accepted by IOC in the latest release. On checking the BARC
> spreadsheet, I note that these are not listed as official splits in that
> list - which is based on IOC 2.9 - whereas they are split in the latest
IOC
> 3.1 list that I have downloaded from http://www.worldbirdnames.org/
> 
> 
> 
> So, this begs the question - IF Australia is to use IOC going forwards,
are
> we to use the most current IOC checklist, or do we use the checklist based
> on IOC 2.9 with some amendments posted on the BARC page? In my opinion, if
> we're to use IOC we should be using the current IOC checklist.
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Dodd
> 
> Docklands, Victoria
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Nikolas Haass  
> Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:04 AM
> To: ; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] C&B vs IOC taxonomy
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Paul et al.,
> 
> 
> 
> An IOC-based OZ list compiled by David James is on the BARC website:
> http://www.tonypalliser.com/barc/barc-home.html
> 
> Similar to the IOC list itself, this one is a dynamic list. So, keep
> checking.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> 
> Nikolas
> 
> 
> 
> ----------------
> Nikolas Haass
> 
> Sydney, NSW
> 
>  _____  
> 
> From: Paul G Dodd <>
> To:  
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:42 PM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] C&B vs IOC taxonomy
> 
> 
> Hi birders,
> 
> 
> 
> Following is my analysis of the splits that are supported by IOC but not
by
> Christidis and Boles:
> 
> 
> 
> Antipodean Albatross (split from Wandering Albatross)
> 
> Northern Royal Albatross (split from Royal Albatross - and Royal Albatross
> renamed Southern Royal Albatross)
> 
> Campbell Albatross (split from Black-browed Albatross)
> 
> Salvin's Albatross (split from Shy Albatross)
> 
> Chatham Albatross (split from Shy Albatross)
> 
> Indian Yellow-nosed Albatross (split from Yellow-nosed Albatross - and
> Yellow-nosed Albatross renamed Atlantic Yellow-nosed Albatross)
> 
> Western Grasswren (split from Thick-billed Grasswren)
> 
> Hornbill Friarbird (split from Helmeted Friarbird)
> 
> Swan River Honeyeater (split from White-naped Honeyeater)
> 
> 
> 
> And the following are proposed splits, I believe:
> 
> 
> 
> Western Quail-thrush (split from Chestnut-breasted Quail-thrush)
> 
> Nullabor Quail-thrush (split from Cinnamon Quail-thrush)
> 
> Western Shrike-tit (split from Crested Shrike-tit)
> 
> 
> 
> Can anyone with more taxonomic experience than me please confirm these
> splits? Have I missed any splits that anyone knows about? Also, are there
> any lumps under IOC?
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Dodd
> 
> Docklands, Victoria
> 
> 
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