C&B vs IOC taxonomy

To: "'Nikolas Haass'" <>, <>
Subject: C&B vs IOC taxonomy
From: "Paul G Dodd" <>
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:23:18 +1000
Thanks Nikolas, that was the list that I was using - however, now I have
some further concerns.


A number of people have told me that the Quail-thrush splits I mentioned
have been accepted by IOC in the latest release. On checking the BARC
spreadsheet, I note that these are not listed as official splits in that
list - which is based on IOC 2.9 - whereas they are split in the latest IOC
3.1 list that I have downloaded from


So, this begs the question - IF Australia is to use IOC going forwards, are
we to use the most current IOC checklist, or do we use the checklist based
on IOC 2.9 with some amendments posted on the BARC page? In my opinion, if
we're to use IOC we should be using the current IOC checklist.


Paul Dodd

Docklands, Victoria



From: Nikolas Haass  
Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2012 12:04 AM
To: ; 
Subject: C&B vs IOC taxonomy


Hi Paul et al.,


An IOC-based OZ list compiled by David James is on the BARC website:

Similar to the IOC list itself, this one is a dynamic list. So, keep






Nikolas Haass

Sydney, NSW


From: Paul G Dodd <>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:42 PM
Subject: C&B vs IOC taxonomy

Hi birders,

Following is my analysis of the splits that are supported by IOC but not by
Christidis and Boles:

Antipodean Albatross (split from Wandering Albatross)

Northern Royal Albatross (split from Royal Albatross - and Royal Albatross
renamed Southern Royal Albatross)

Campbell Albatross (split from Black-browed Albatross)

Salvin's Albatross (split from Shy Albatross)

Chatham Albatross (split from Shy Albatross)

Indian Yellow-nosed Albatross (split from Yellow-nosed Albatross - and
Yellow-nosed Albatross renamed Atlantic Yellow-nosed Albatross)

Western Grasswren (split from Thick-billed Grasswren)

Hornbill Friarbird (split from Helmeted Friarbird)

Swan River Honeyeater (split from White-naped Honeyeater)

And the following are proposed splits, I believe:

Western Quail-thrush (split from Chestnut-breasted Quail-thrush)

Nullabor Quail-thrush (split from Cinnamon Quail-thrush)

Western Shrike-tit (split from Crested Shrike-tit)

Can anyone with more taxonomic experience than me please confirm these
splits? Have I missed any splits that anyone knows about? Also, are there
any lumps under IOC?

Paul Dodd

Docklands, Victoria


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