I'm curious as to who runs the National Night Parrot Network? I'm sure it would
be interesting to hear what they have been doing for the last few years, and
(as the newspaper report was a bit vague) exactly how follow up surveys in NW
Victoria were attempted? I'm enjoying reading this discussion, I'd love to help
out with Night Parrot surveys if they were coordinated like Dion has suggested,
and I'm sure a lot of other people would agree!
.Regards, Joshua Bergmark
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> To: ; ;
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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:46:29 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Using a people??? for Night Parrots
>
> I feel Jeff and Rob have made some good recommendations here. The next
> specimen of Night Parrot should not be preserved chemically (or some
> feathers should be preserved naturally). As Jeff points out both recent
> specimens come from the Diamantina-this is the clearest lead. As Rob points
> out the flood seasons two years in a row are a unique opportunity for some
> well organized community birding based follow up surveys using all the
> techniques at the disposal of a scientific birding community-camera
> traps-sound recorders-observers both human and canine and give the mystery
> the support it deserves. Why not draw a 300 km radius within both recent
> specimens-hit it with a GIS analysis-martial a team of observers when the
> dry returns and give it a good go. There is everything to gain. Putting the
> parrot on the map.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Murray
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 7:47 PM
> To: 'Jeff Davies'; 'robert morris'; 'dion hobcroft'; 'birding aus'
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Using a people??? for Night Parrots
>
> Jeff. I'm sorry but I'm having a bit of trouble with: " We know they have
> been in the region of Boulia and Diamantina for a couple of decades" How do
> we know this? Are you saying there have been enough confirmed sightings
> from this region to indicate they have been consistently present for that
> period of time? If that's so, then there must be an awful lot of suppressed
> sightings I don't know about.
> Steve Murray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of Jeff Davies
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 6:51 PM
> To: 'robert morris'; 'dion hobcroft'; 'birding aus'
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Using a people??? for Night Parrots
>
> Dion has made a good suggestion and it has already been discussed between
> myself and friends as being something we think would be worth investigating,
> not that I have any power or authority over any of this actually happening.
> Probably a good reason why the next dead Night Parrot should be just freeze
> dried rather than boraxed.
> All of the literature leaves me with a strong impression that Night Parrot
> is almost impossible to flush when secreted away during daylight hours,
> unless fire is an option.
> I also can find no evidence Night parrot is genuinely nomadic, it would
> certainly be dispersive after good times and possibly shift around locally
> within a region. We know they have been in the region of Boulia and
> Diamantina for a couple of decades and add hock possible reports by locals
> would suggest they have always been there. Is scarlet-chested Parrot really
> nomadic?
>
> Cheers Jeff.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> On Behalf Of robert morris
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 4:53 PM
> To: dion hobcroft; birding aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Using a people??? for Night Parrots
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> Hi Dion
> An interesting idea! But I don't rate your chances getting that one up and
> running!
> But before we go down that route (even hypothetically) - has anyone (e.g.
> the National Nigh Parrot Network) actually really tried to coordinate a
> large number of birders on a roster to systematically survey likely areas?
> For the last 3 years for example - Western Qld has had a lot of rain.
> Conditions must be as good now as they ever have been (ignoring the pest
> issues). But is anyone actually looking? A few minutes of research on
> habitats, rainfall and historic records and likely areas could be
> identified. I think a lot of people would respond and assist.
> I genuinely believe that areas will currently exist under the recent wet
> conditions (and I mean the last 3-4 years of above average rainfalls) where
> there are night parrots breeding. We just do not interact with them
> geographically and temporally.
> It would be good if someone would respond and let us know about the National
> Night Parrot Network, their remit, plans etc. Could birdwatcher power be
> captured to actually help rediscovered Night Parrots at a time they may be
> on the up? Are we about to miss this opportunity?
> All I hear is silence - perhaps birders have to organise this themselves?
> Rob Morris
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> Brisbane, Australia
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> > From:
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> > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:59:18 +1000
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Using a dog for Night Parrots
> >
> > I have often wondered why no-one has trained a dog to search for Night
> > Parrot. Get them tracking Ground Parrots and then move to the desert
> > with a muzzle (to avoid eating 1080 baits and Night Parrots). Our Kiwi
> > friends use this strategy successfully for finding Kakapo.
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