Using a people??? for Night Parrots

To: "'robert morris'" <>, "'dion hobcroft'" <>, "'birding aus'" <>
Subject: Using a people??? for Night Parrots
From: "Jeff Davies" <>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 18:50:55 +1000
Dion has made a good suggestion and it has already been discussed between
myself and friends as being something we think would be worth investigating,
not that I have any power or authority over any of this actually happening.
Probably a good reason why the next dead Night Parrot should be just freeze
dried rather than boraxed.
All of the literature leaves me with a strong impression that Night Parrot
is almost impossible to flush when secreted away during daylight hours,
unless fire is an option. 
I also can find no evidence Night parrot is genuinely nomadic, it would
certainly be dispersive after good times and possibly shift around locally
within a region. We know they have been in the region of Boulia and
Diamantina for a couple of decades and add hock possible reports by locals
would suggest they have always been there. Is scarlet-chested Parrot really

Cheers Jeff.

-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of robert morris
Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 4:53 PM
To: dion hobcroft; birding aus
Subject: Using a people??? for Night Parrots

Hi Dion
An interesting idea! But I don't rate your chances getting that one up and
But before we go down that route (even hypothetically) - has anyone (e.g.
the National Nigh Parrot Network) actually really tried to coordinate a
large number of birders on a roster to systematically survey likely areas?
For the last 3 years for example - Western Qld has had a lot of rain.
Conditions must be as good now as they ever have been (ignoring the pest
issues). But is anyone actually looking? A few minutes of research on
habitats, rainfall and historic records and likely areas could be
identified. I think a lot of people would respond and assist.
I genuinely believe that areas will currently exist under the recent wet
conditions (and I mean the last 3-4 years of above average rainfalls) where
there are night parrots breeding. We just do not interact with them
geographically and temporally. 
It would be good if someone would respond and let us know about the National
Night Parrot Network, their remit, plans etc. Could birdwatcher power be
captured to actually help rediscovered Night Parrots at a time they may be
on the up? Are we about to miss this opportunity?
All I hear is silence - perhaps birders have to organise this themselves?
Rob Morris 


Brisbane, Australia 

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> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 15:59:18 +1000
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Using a dog for Night Parrots
> I have often wondered why no-one has trained a dog to search for Night 
> Parrot. Get them tracking Ground Parrots and then move to the desert 
> with a muzzle (to avoid eating 1080 baits and Night Parrots). Our Kiwi 
> friends use this strategy successfully for finding Kakapo.
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