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Night Parrot again

To: robert morris <>
Subject: Night Parrot again
From: Carl Clifford <>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:39:50 +1000
Rob,

Probably we won't find out much about Nigh Parrots, as anyone can tell, their 
end is Nigh.

Cheers,

Carl Clifford

Sent from my iPad

On 06/06/2012, at 11:36, robert morris <> wrote:

> 
> The only things I would point out are:
> 1) The Tasmanian Tiger is actually declared extinct. The Night Parrot is 
> almost certainly not extinct.2) We know quite a lot about Tasmanian Tigers. 
> We know very little about Nigh Parrots.
> It is an analogy which the general public will be able to understand (and 
> perhaps be misled by?).....
> Rob Morris 
> 
> 
> 
> Brisbane, Australia 
> 
> 
>> From: 
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:41:08 +1000
>> To: 
>> CC: ; 
>> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Night Parrot again
>> 
>> Andrew, Richard and BAers,
>> 
>> From my point of view it makes perfect sense for an article about night 
>> parrots to quote both the Tassie Tiger (the most well known "lost species") 
>> and budgie (the closest similar well-known bird).  Both pieces are for a 
>> popular non- birding readership and address this perfectly.
>> 
>> In this case I would suspect this is a case of "editorial convergent 
>> evolution" as it makes complete sense and logic.
>> 
>> I also don't think BA as a forum should be used for accusations of 
>> plagiarism either.
>> 
>> Cheers all,
>> 
>> Ed
>> 
>> Ed Williams
>> Kingsville, VIC
>> 
>> On 06/06/2012, at 9:52 AM, "Andrew Stafford" <> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Richard,
>>> 
>>> I find your email both funny and mildly offensive at once - specifically 
>>> your assertion that I've plagiarised John Huxley's Brisbane Times report 
>>> from 2007. Mildly offensive because I was under the strong impression at 
>>> the time that Huxley had, in fact, come dangerously close to plagiarising 
>>> MY original report on the 2006 Night Parrot specimen in the June 2007 issue 
>>> of Wingspan! (Which, due to the quarterly publication's long lead time, was 
>>> written probably in April-May of that year.) My opening paragraph for that 
>>> story reads:
>>> 
>>> "On Saturday 17 September 2006, Robert "Shorty" Cupitt, the ranger-on-duty 
>>> of Diamantina National Park in south-west Queensland, was grading an 
>>> interior road of the reserve when the blade of his vehicle exposed the 
>>> yellow underbelly of a bird he didn't recognise."
>>> 
>>> Compare that to Huxley's opening paragraph and judge for yourself:
>>> 
>>> "THE park ranger Robert "Shorty" Cupitt was repairing a section of track in 
>>> a remote part of Diamantina National Park, Queensland, when the blade of 
>>> his grader exposed the headless corpse of a bird he could not immediately 
>>> identify. The yellow-bellied bird..."
>>> 
>>> The issue back then was that neither Birds Australia nor the National Night 
>>> Parrot network were informed about the discovery of the 2006 bird by the 
>>> Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service - contrary to its own management 
>>> plans for the species. I'd suggest you read the rest of the original report 
>>> before you start throwing (misspelt) accusations of hypocrisy around...
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Austrlian birding friends. I am research more around the Night Parrot. And 
>>> I 
>>> find this on the www.
>>> 
>>> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/twitchers-cry-foul-in-case-of-the-deceased-parrot/2007/06/22/1182019367467.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It is funny no?
>>> 
>>> Why ?
>>> 
>>> Well the Age writer has copied same ideas - 'Tasmanian Tiger' and 'Budgie' 
>>> from Brisbane Times. 'Dubbed the Tasmanian tiger of the skies, this small, 
>>> drab, budgerigar-like bird has fascinated scientists' Naughty naughty! Ha 
>>> ha ha 
>>> 
>>> And more even funny - Birds Australia keep this record secret to hide it 
>>> from 
>>> birdwatchers 'hunting the bird down.' 
>>> 
>>> But at 2007 they told us all when dead bird found in Queensland like 
>>> chicken 
>>> with no head:
>>> 
>>> Mike Weston, research and conservation manager at Birds Australia, says the 
>>> "incredible secrecy" prevented a concerted inquiry that might have yielded 
>>> clues to the birds' habits.
>>> "The way it was handled was most disappointing."
>>> 
>>> Ha ha ha - I translate from www it is called 'hypocpacy' No?
>>> 
>>> If may be proper bird watcher go to look and see - may be now we now no 
>>> more 
>>> about the Night Parrot? NO? May be too many chickens run with no heads and 
>>> hiding at their desk?
>>> 
>>> Richard
>>> 
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