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Night Parrot again

To: Andrew Stafford <>
Subject: Night Parrot again
From: Ed Williams <>
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:41:08 +1000
Andrew, Richard and BAers,

>From my point of view it makes perfect sense for an article about night 
>parrots to quote both the Tassie Tiger (the most well known "lost species") 
>and budgie (the closest similar well-known bird).  Both pieces are for a 
>popular non- birding readership and address this perfectly.

In this case I would suspect this is a case of "editorial convergent evolution" 
as it makes complete sense and logic.

I also don't think BA as a forum should be used for accusations of plagiarism 
either.

Cheers all,

Ed

Ed Williams
Kingsville, VIC

On 06/06/2012, at 9:52 AM, "Andrew Stafford" <> wrote:

> Hi Richard,
> 
> I find your email both funny and mildly offensive at once - specifically your 
> assertion that I've plagiarised John Huxley's Brisbane Times report from 
> 2007. Mildly offensive because I was under the strong impression at the time 
> that Huxley had, in fact, come dangerously close to plagiarising MY original 
> report on the 2006 Night Parrot specimen in the June 2007 issue of Wingspan! 
> (Which, due to the quarterly publication's long lead time, was written 
> probably in April-May of that year.) My opening paragraph for that story 
> reads:
> 
> "On Saturday 17 September 2006, Robert "Shorty" Cupitt, the ranger-on-duty of 
> Diamantina National Park in south-west Queensland, was grading an interior 
> road of the reserve when the blade of his vehicle exposed the yellow 
> underbelly of a bird he didn't recognise."
> 
> Compare that to Huxley's opening paragraph and judge for yourself:
> 
> "THE park ranger Robert "Shorty" Cupitt was repairing a section of track in a 
> remote part of Diamantina National Park, Queensland, when the blade of his 
> grader exposed the headless corpse of a bird he could not immediately 
> identify. The yellow-bellied bird..."
> 
> The issue back then was that neither Birds Australia nor the National Night 
> Parrot network were informed about the discovery of the 2006 bird by the 
> Queensland Parks and Wildlife Service - contrary to its own management plans 
> for the species. I'd suggest you read the rest of the original report before 
> you start throwing (misspelt) accusations of hypocrisy around...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Austrlian birding friends. I am research more around the Night Parrot. And I 
> find this on the www.
> 
> http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/twitchers-cry-foul-in-case-of-the-deceased-parrot/2007/06/22/1182019367467.html
> 
> 
> 
> It is funny no?
> 
> Why ?
> 
> Well the Age writer has copied same ideas - 'Tasmanian Tiger' and 'Budgie' 
> from Brisbane Times. 'Dubbed the Tasmanian tiger of the skies, this small, 
> drab, budgerigar-like bird has fascinated scientists' Naughty naughty! Ha ha 
> ha 
> 
> And more even funny - Birds Australia keep this record secret to hide it from 
> birdwatchers 'hunting the bird down.' 
> 
> But at 2007 they told us all when dead bird found in Queensland like chicken 
> with no head:
> 
> Mike Weston, research and conservation manager at Birds Australia, says the 
> "incredible secrecy" prevented a concerted inquiry that might have yielded 
> clues to the birds' habits.
> "The way it was handled was most disappointing."
> 
> Ha ha ha - I translate from www it is called 'hypocpacy' No?
> 
> If may be proper bird watcher go to look and see - may be now we now no more 
> about the Night Parrot? NO? May be too many chickens run with no heads and 
> hiding at their desk?
> 
> Richard
> 
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