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Help with ID on a duck please

To: "'Birding Australia'" <>
Subject: Help with ID on a duck please
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 14:29:39 +1000
I agree with others, as in within an Australian context it is a Grey Teal.
Hard to know how to support or reject the idea of being a hybrid, just on
those photos. Some have said it is moulting its primaries. True, but it is
moulting its secondaries as well. Maybe the combination of loss of all those
feathers significantly changes the appearance of the bird's back sloping
onto the tail and highlights a rather odd shaped tail. Maybe moulting its
outer rectricies as well.

Philip Veerman
24 Castley Circuit
Kambah  ACT  2902
 
02 - 62314041


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Sent: Thursday, 3 May 2012 8:05 AM      To: Birding Australia   Subject: Re:
[Birding-Aus] Help with ID on a duck please


Thanks all for the feedback thus far - Ive had a number of responses via the
forum and private  -  the general concensus is that the bird is Grey Teal -
either pure or of mixed breeding though a few feel it may be something else
akin to a Pintail.  It was an interesting sighting - I must admit for a
while we were wondering what the heck it was though my leaning was always
something with Grey Teal in it - I must confess the erect tail got us going.
I favour some hybridisation as Ive never seen a Grey Teal have the look and
jizz of this bird though the theory of a juvenile may have some merit  -
certainly the tail got us wondering as Ive never seen that before so
pronounced.  The birds solitary nature and more confiding attitude also
suggested it may have been something different. In terms of size the bird
appeared to be larger and more elongated than a Grey Teal and I think the
photos demonstrate this.  Anyway no doubt a strange looking specimen that
had us wondering. for a w  hile.  

 Any further comment welcome.   
regards

David Taylor

On 02/05/2012, at 6:14 PM, david taylor wrote:

> 
> Myself and Geoff Brown from Lithgow found an unusual Duck in the 
> Lockyer Valley west of Brisbane today.  Managed a number of images. We 
> are unsure of the birds identity and any feedback from birders/duck 
> experts appreciated - please click on the link below - then click on 
> the link you will see on the front of my website - a summary and 
> images on the page. Please respond either on the forum or to my email 
> address which is 
> 
> Heres the link
> 
> http://web.mac.com/theplainswanderer/
> 
> 
> With thanks
> 
> David Taylor
> Brisbane

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