Which Wandering Albatross?

To: "'B Whylie'" <>
Subject: Which Wandering Albatross?
From: "Jeff Davies" <>
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 22:58:50 +1000
G'day Brook,

That's obviously an acceptable record, I was referring below to a fly by
type records. As mentioned in a previous email, radio tracking data indicate
the bird reaches at least SW WA, so southern Australia is obviously part of
the taxon's natural distribution.

Cheers Jeff.

-----Original Message-----
From: B Whylie  
Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 10:47 PM
To: Jeff Davies
Cc: 'Peter Shute'; ; 
Subject: Which Wandering Albatross?

Hi Jeff,

I'm certain SOSSA has a confirmed record of dabbenena in Australian waters.
The bird in question was captured and had a South African band on it. The
South African's confirmed the bird had been banded as a chick on Gough
Island. The South African's banded it as a chick in 1992. It was captured
off Wollongong in 1997 and was recaptured on Gough in 2005.


On 4/04/2012 4:28 PM, Jeff Davies wrote:
> The premise is that "what BARC thinks of them" and what is actually
happening out there in the real world don't correlate. In fact I don't even
actually understand what it was that Henry was actually trying to say about
BARC with that statement, maybe he should ellaborate. I feel uncomfortable
when BARCs name gets thrown up as some sort of punching bag for issues it
has nothing to do with.
> BARC isn't a taxonomic review committee, it aims to provide an orderly
approach to identifying uncommonly recorded taxon and part of that orderly
approach is to follow a single recommended species list, also not determined
by BARC. I agree with Nikolas that it would probably be more functional and
less controversial if we recognized subspecies as referable taxon. From a
personal point of view whether a bird is a true species or not is not a
contributing factor to the process of trying to identify what it is flying
around in front of you.
> Getting back to Tristram Abatross, I suspect that is one
taxon(irrespective of whether you want to consider it a species or not) that
if claimed and presented to BARC for assessment would be virtually
impossible to ever be accepted as a valid record, I am certainly unaware of
a sure fire way to identify it. I am not speaking on behalf of BARC here
just as a voting member.
> Cheers Jeff.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Shute 
> Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 3:57 PM
> To: ; ; ;
; ; 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Which Wandering Albatross?
> I interpreted Harry's remark as meaning that it doesn't matter to the
birds what BARC thinks of them, not that they shouldn't concern BARC.
> Am I wrong?
> Peter Shute
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