Which Wandering Albatross?

To: Jeff Davies <>
Subject: Which Wandering Albatross?
From: B Whylie <>
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2012 22:47:29 +1000
Hi Jeff,

I'm certain SOSSA has a confirmed record of dabbenena in Australian waters. The bird in question was captured and had a South African band on it. The South African's confirmed the bird had been banded as a chick on Gough Island. The South African's banded it as a chick in 1992. It was captured off Wollongong in 1997 and was recaptured on Gough in 2005.


On 4/04/2012 4:28 PM, Jeff Davies wrote:
The premise is that "what BARC thinks of them" and what is actually happening 
out there in the real world don't correlate. In fact I don't even actually understand 
what it was that Henry was actually trying to say about BARC with that statement, maybe 
he should ellaborate. I feel uncomfortable when BARCs name gets thrown up as some sort of 
punching bag for issues it has nothing to do with.

BARC isn't a taxonomic review committee, it aims to provide an orderly approach 
to identifying uncommonly recorded taxon and part of that orderly approach is 
to follow a single recommended species list, also not determined by BARC. I 
agree with Nikolas that it would probably be more functional and less 
controversial if we recognized subspecies as referable taxon. From a personal 
point of view whether a bird is a true species or not is not a contributing 
factor to the process of trying to identify what it is flying around in front 
of you.

Getting back to Tristram Abatross, I suspect that is one taxon(irrespective of 
whether you want to consider it a species or not) that if claimed and presented 
to BARC for assessment would be virtually impossible to ever be accepted as a 
valid record, I am certainly unaware of a sure fire way to identify it. I am 
not speaking on behalf of BARC here just as a voting member.

Cheers Jeff.

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From: Peter Shute 
Sent: Wednesday, 4 April 2012 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Which Wandering Albatross?

I interpreted Harry's remark as meaning that it doesn't matter to the birds 
what BARC thinks of them, not that they shouldn't concern BARC.

Am I wrong?

Peter Shute

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