To my knowledge it is also very difficult to ID Tristan in the hand. I have
personally seen two interesting candidates (both caught and measured by SOSSA),
but we did not get to a definite ID. As far as I know there is not a single
record of a Tristan Albatross accepted by BARC. Correct me if I am wrong.
Cheers,
Nikolas
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Nikolas Haass
Sydney, NSW
________________________________
From: Ashwin Rudder <>
To: John Graff <>; birding-aus <>
Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2012 10:29 PM
Subject: Which Wandering Albatross?
Thanks John and Henry for the replies about the occurrence of Tristan's
Albatross in Aus waters. It seems that the difficulty in ID-ing them makes
them not really worth considering unless you can get them in the hand.
Cheers,
Ashwin
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:24 PM, John Graff <> wrote:
> Hi Ashwin,
>
> I think Tristan is pretty rarely recorded with certainty in Australian
> waters, but the ID difficulties make it difficult to know for certain. It's
> interesting to note though that satellite tracking data shows
> that non-breeders do reach the south coast of WA - see the Tristan
> Albatross factsheet at ACAP http://www.acap.aq/acap-species
>
> John
> > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:24:43 +1100
> > From:
> > To:
>
> > Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Which Wandering Albatross?
> >
> > Thanks to all those that have replied :)
> >
> > The general consensus was that these birds (both in general, and the two
> I
> > asked about) are incredibly difficult to identify with certainty. Those
> who
> > replied were fairly happy to call the first bird a Gibson's, while the
> > second attracted a fairly even split between exulans and gibsoni.
> >
> > I originally dismissed Tristan's (dabbenena) straight out on the basis of
> > distribution, however a few people made reference to them. How often are
> > they recorded in Australia's waters?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ashwin
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Henry Battam <>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Ashwin
> > >
> > > Individual 1 has brown plumage and a definite forehead. It is most
> likely
> > > D. gibsoni, but could be (less likely) D. dabbenena.
> > > Individual 2 has 3 generations of plumage. However the youngest
> > > generation is slate-coloured, and this bird has no distinct forehead,
> > > characteristics of D. exulans
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Harry Battam
> > > Institute for Conservation and Environmental Management
> > > University of Wollongong
> > > Wollongong, NSW, Australia 2522
> > > Mobile +61 429 887 883
> > >
> > > ________________________________________
> > > From: [
> > > on behalf of Ashwin Rudder [
> > >
> > > Sent: 27 March 2012 21:05
> > > To: birding-aus
> > > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Which Wandering Albatross?
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'd like a hand identifying these two Wandering Albatross to species
> (or
> > > subspecies depending on your taxonomy beliefs) level, if it's
> possible. At
> > > the moment I'm struggling to split between gibsoni and exulans, and
> thought
> > > I'd throw the pics out to some experts to get some more opinions. I
> have
> > > more photos/bigger crops of both individuals.
> > >
> > > The photos were taken mid January 2012, off Lord Howe Island.
> > > Images 1-3 show the first bird
> > > Images 4 and 5 show the second bird, which I neglected to get good
> shots
> > > of...
> > > Images 6 and 7 show both birds, with the first bird on the
> right-hand-side
> > > in both pics.
> > > (This information is included in the captions)
> > >
> > > The images can be viewed here:
> > >
> > >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/noisypitta/Albatross?authuser=0&feat=directlink
> > >
> > > Any thoughts would be appreciated :)
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Ashwin
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