Steve,
You will have to ask the software builders that question. I presume it
was because it was made in the USA, where Clements seems to reign. If
I ever get up the courage to hack my own database out of Filemaker, I
will use the IOC taxonomy, which I had used with my listings on Bento.
Cheers,
Carl Clifford
On 01/04/2011, at 6:12 PM, Steve Potter wrote:
Hi Peter and Carl.
Curious?
Why the decision to use Clements and not IOC. I am new to all this
stuff. I still can’t bring myself to call a Yellow and Blue Rosella
“Crimson”
Cheers
Steve Potter
Scarlet Myzomela
from [Carl Clifford]
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To:
Peter Waanders < >
Subject:
Scarlet Myzomela
From:
Carl Clifford < >
Date:
Fri, 1 Apr 2011 11:52:06 +1100
Peter,
Tell me about it. I am finishing off the "irregularities" that popped
up when I transferred my sightings from Bento, in which I had used the
IOC list and C&B and proper English spellings, into Birdbrain, which
is Clements based. Oh what fun I have had! Not only are there the
examples you cite, but others such as Pacific Reef Heron ( I thought
being in the genus Egretta might have given them a clue there) and one
that particularly gets up my nose, Pink Bl***y Cockatoo for Major
Mitchell Cockatoo. This I find a gross insult, not only to the memory
of Major Mitchell but to the people of Australia. This is apparently
accepted by BA.
In the overview to the latest updates to Clements on the Cornell Lab
website, it is mentioned that as they have finished with the North and
South American and Australian checklists, they will be looking at
other regions including Asia. That should be interesting.
I think I will have to lash out and buy a copy of FileMaker and make
my own database using my own preferred nomenclature and bugger the rest.
Cheers,
Carl Clifford
P.S. Anyone want a hardly used copy of Clements? Only a few tear
stains on it.
On 01/04/2011, at 10:34 AM, Peter Waanders wrote:
Hi Carl,
There's lots of this sort of stuff with Clements - for starters, all
Grey birds are Gray. Then there's the Rufous Night-heron, Black-
breasted Kite (not Buzzard), Australian (not Black-shouldered) Kite,
Thick-knees not Stone-curlews, Red-headed and Scarlet Myzomela (not
Honeyeater) and probably more. As you well know there's pros and cons
with each global checklist, but Clements appears to remain the most
widely used list despite some of its peculiarities. One of the main
criticisms of Clements has long been that they seem to have paid undue
respect to nomenclature / taxonomy changes in checklists put forward
by regional authorities (such as BA), and it seems that they've now
finally taken this on board, which should be applauded. We can only
hope that future updates continue this trend. Nevertheless, note that
they state on their website 'where necessary the final decisions on
taxonomy and nomenclature are made by the Clements Checklist team'.
cheers
Peter
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