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Wandering Tattler.

To: "'Alastair Smith'" <>, "'Mark and Amanda Young'" <>, "'Nathan'" <>, "'Paul Walbridge'" <>, "'Birding-aus'" <>
Subject: Wandering Tattler.
From: "Tony Russel" <>
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:01:55 +1030
Agreed.

Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Alastair Smith
Sent: Saturday, 12 February 2011 1:05 PM
To: Mark and Amanda Young; 'Nathan'; 'Paul Walbridge'; Birding-aus
Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [Birding-Aus] Wandering Tattler.

Maybe it would be best for all to take this spat offline!

On 12/02/11 10:04 AM, "Mark and Amanda Young" <>
wrote:

>Nathan,
>
>As you are aware but choose not to say so, what I was told by an Admin
>and a
>fellow poster who is a close friend of yours happened exactly as I
>portrayed
>them in my earlier email.
>
>Your comment  "A few birdwatchers being semi-disregarding won't make much
>of
>a Difference in the long run.." is indicative of the comments that were
>directed towards me by both those people. And I disagree. I think it does
>make a huge difference. In a way, by your comment here you've confirmed
>that
>I was right to post what I did, because I feel that any
>watching/photography
>must be done with consideration of the birds we are
>watching/photographing!
>I can't for the life of my understand how you can say such a thing and
>still
>be a birdwatcher!
>
>We as birdwatchers can educate people on the correct way to behave around
>birds. We can tell people about the importance of bird habitat. We can
>share
>our knowledge with others and foster a sense of understanding. We can so
>do
>much more than to put another tick on a list. It is up to us the lay
>person
>to help educate people about the birds. I do this all the time with
>people I
>know and meet on the reef. Rather than being semi-disregarding as you say,
>and as you do, I choose to go up to people and let them know about the
>birds
>they put to flight! And you know what, not one has ever told me off or
>said
>anything bad for doing so. Most people are curious and like to see the
>pictures of the birds in my camera's viewfinder. They then walk back off
>the
>reef very differently. Your comment above clearly shows you don't think
>that
>is important. 
>
>If you have no regard for the welfare of birds or the environment that
>they
>are in, perhaps you should ask yourself just why are you bird watching in
>the first place?
>
>Regards,
>Mark
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: 
> On Behalf Of Nathan
>Sent: Friday, 11 February 2011 5:19 PM
>To: Paul Walbridge; birding-aus
>Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Wandering Tattler.
>
>Just clearing it up slightly for everyone who 'had a go' at him, The
>comments in question were posted on Feathers & Photos forum (the topic has
>since been deleted, so no quotes), but in my opinion (and that of pretty
>much everyone who read it) the posts didn't show any malice or
>vindictiveness. They were very polite and not at all rude. I do understand
>in not reporting it, but the posters are birdwatcher friends, and I don't
>want everyone to think of them as arses...
>
>Also, Remember, Long Reef is a place visited by hundreds every weekend (if
>not day), and that barely any of them give a crap about the birds. A few
>birdwatchers being semi-disregarding won't make much of a Difference in
>the
>long run..
>
>Thanks for reading
>-Nathan
>
>On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Paul Walbridge <
>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mark & Amanda, firstly congrats on the new addition to the family.
>>Now,
>> I'm flabbergasted to think that there are birders out there that would
>have
>> a go at you for not reporting something like a Wandering Tattler
>> immediately. First of all it's a species that once settled into an area
>for
>> the summer, will usually stay for the duration. Secondly, they should
>>get
>> off their collective fat arses and take the relatively short trip up the
>NSW
>> coastline, checking out remote headlands (there's plenty of them) and
>>find
>> their own, it's a lot more fun!! You never know they might even make it
>over
>> the QLD border and start to enjoy themselves. Oh, and well done with
>>your
>> persistence in observing this bird and monitoring it and then sharing
>>with
>> others. Cheers - Paul W.
>>
>>
>>
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