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Very dark Grey-tailed Tattler

To: "'Laurie Knight'" <>, "'Birding Aus'" <>
Subject: Very dark Grey-tailed Tattler
From: "Mark and Amanda Young" <>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 23:17:25 +1100
Hi Laurie,

On this occasion the bird was doing nothing. It was just standing on the
rock watching me watch it. And on the other occasions prior to today I
haven't seen the bird feed.

Is the crab chasing important with the Wandering Tattlers? I've seen the
Grey-tailed Tattlers chase and eat crabs at the reef before.

Regards,
Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Laurie Knight
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 11:02 PM
To: Birding Aus
Subject: Very dark Grey-tailed Tattler

Nasal groove looks fine.

One thing that people haven't discussed is what the bird was doing.   
Was it chasing crabs on a rocky reef?

On 08/02/2011, at 9:21 PM, Nikolas Haass wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> I agree with Jeff. The overall darkness, the thin and short  
> supercilium (very
> weak behind the eye), the reduced white throat and the weak contrast  
> between
> lores and adjacent areas look good for Wandering Tattler. Can't  
> really tell the
> nasal grove on your picture...
> Was this bird at Long Reef?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Nikolas
>
> ----------------
> Nikolas Haass
> 
> Sydney, NSW
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jeff Davies <>
> To: Mark and Amanda Young <>;
> 
> Sent: Tue, February 8, 2011 9:17:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Very dark Grey-tailed Tattler
>
> G'day Mark,
>
> I agree your bird is a Wandering Tattler.
> This species is a tad darker than Grey-tailed, but another  
> contributing
> factor to the perceived increase in grey is that Wandering typically  
> shows a
> substantial amount of grey along the flanks below the wing, this is
> diagnostic of the species. The Grey-tailed you have linked shows a  
> minimal
> amount and that is typical, it also shows a more extensive white
> supercillium, and throat merging into upper neck, Wandering has the  
> white
> throat restricted to a discrete white patch cut off to the darker  
> neck and
> cheeks. So in conclusion Wandering isn't just a bit darker it also  
> has lot
> more of it.
>
> Cheers Jeff.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Mark and
> Amanda Young
> Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2011 8:58 PM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Very dark Grey-tailed Tattler
>
> G'day everyone,
>
>
>
> I was hoping someone could have a look at this image of a Tattler I  
> saw this
> afternoon in Sydney.
>
>
>
> I have seen this bird on and off for the past 4 weeks or so. I've  
> only been
> able to photograph it today. Initially when I saw the bird, I  
> immediately
> noted just how dark it is in comparison to the other Grey-tailed  
> Tattlers.
> In the field the difference in colour is very obvious, even in  
> overcast
> conditions. I haven't heard the bird call at all as that would've  
> really
> helped me out.
>
>
>
> Not wanting to jump the gun and say I've seen a Wandering, I've sat  
> on it
> and watched this and another bird for the next month hoping for an
> opportunity to get a better look at the bird. I've not seen a  
> Wandering
> before and I didn't want to make a false ID. I've gone off some  
> guide books
> and other information from members here to help me  ID the bird, and  
> I'ld
> like to get some more experienced opinions on the matter.
>
>
>
> Today however I was able to get a fairly decent image of the bird.
>
>
>
> Can someone have a look and let me know if they think it's a  
> Wandering or a
> very dark Grey-tailed Tattler.
>
>
>
> Link to the dark Tattler: http://bit.ly/gU3YYW
>
>
>
> For comparisons sake, a link to a Grey-tailed I photographed at the  
> same
> location 3 days ago. http://bit.ly/fDqxig
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
>
>
>
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