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Bird guide design

To: 'Tony Russel' <>, "" <>, 'Tony Keene' <>, 'Birding-aus' <>
Subject: Bird guide design
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 09:44:03 +1100
Good point, Tony. And for just double the current cost, you could buy two, and 
unbind one and put the pages you're likely to be referring to on this trip into 
separate ziplock bags or plastic sleeves. I'm assuming that when people need to 
refer to a guide in the rain, that they're just looking at a particular group 
of species, say waders or seabirds, so they wouldn't need that many pages. You 
could laminate them and rebind them to make your own "Slater's Waders", etc.

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Tony Russel
> Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2011 8:41 AM
> To: ; 'Tony Keene'; 'Birding-aus'
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Bird guide design
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> I'll stick with the present type of book I think. At 445 each
> one could get 22.22 copies of Pizzey over time for $1000 -
> just replace them as they get too soggy to use.
>
> Tony
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Paul G Dodd
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2011 5:40 PM
> To: 'Tony Keene'; 'Birding-aus'
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Bird guide design
>
> I think the polymer used for the banknotes would be
> prohibitively expensive. I also think that the polymer used
> for the notes may be too thick (and perhaps too heavy). I
> notice that there is waterproof paper - which can be written
> on - but a quick check of the price of packets of waterproof
> A4 paper ($56 per 200 sheets or $140 per ream) compared to
> regular A4 paper ($6.30 per ream) shows that it is slightly
> more than 22 times the cost. This would mean that Pizzey
> ($45 from Andrew Isles) would probably retail at about $1000
> in a waterproof edition - about three times the cost of a
> volume of HANZAB!
>
> With the incredible take-off of electronic readers like
> Kindle, and of course the burgeoning revolution in tablet
> devices like the iPad, it may be that electronic delivery is
> the appropriate medium for the future?
>
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Tony Keene
> Sent: Wednesday, 12 January 2011 4:59 PM
> To: Birding-aus
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Bird guide design
>
> Hi all,
>
>  I did a bit of a review of the big four bird guides for
> birdforum and one subject I touched on was what the books are
> printed on. Simpson and Day has a waterproof cover under the
> dustjacket and waterproof end papers, while Slater and
> Morcombe have plastic sleeves (Pizzey doesn't appear to have
> any waterproofing), but why stop there? Reading about CSIRO's
> nascent field guide, I wonder if they would entertain the
> idea of using similar paper for the book as they use for
> Australian bank notes - you'd have a guide that would be
> completely waterproof and that much more useful in the field
> as well as more resistant to normal wear and tear.
>  Just an idea.
>  Cheers,
>
>  Tony
>
>
> www.tonykeenebirds.co.uk
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