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Bird guide design

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Subject: Bird guide design
From: Dave Torr <>
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:47:45 +1100
Paper is only part of the cost of a book of course. Apparently a plastic
banknote costs twice as much to produce as the old paper ones - OK this is
very specialist printing, security measures etc but I would guess that we
would see similar figures for books?

On 12 January 2011 18:09, Paul G Dodd <> wrote:

> I think the polymer used for the banknotes would be prohibitively
> expensive. I also think that the polymer used for the notes may be too thick
> (and perhaps too heavy). I notice that there is waterproof paper - which can
> be written on - but a quick check of the price of packets of waterproof A4
> paper ($56 per 200 sheets or $140 per ream) compared to regular A4 paper
> ($6.30 per ream) shows that it is slightly more than 22 times the cost. This
> would mean that Pizzey  ($45 from Andrew Isles) would probably retail at
> about $1000 in a waterproof edition - about three times the cost of a volume
> of HANZAB!
>
> With the incredible take-off of electronic readers like Kindle, and of
> course the burgeoning revolution in tablet devices like the iPad, it may be
> that electronic delivery is the appropriate medium for the future?
>
> Paul Dodd
> Docklands, Victoria
>
>
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> Hi all,
>
>  I did a bit of a review of the big four bird guides for birdforum and one
> subject I touched on was what the books are printed on. Simpson and Day has
> a waterproof cover under the dustjacket and waterproof end papers, while
> Slater and Morcombe have plastic sleeves (Pizzey doesn't appear to have any
> waterproofing), but why stop there? Reading about CSIRO's nascent field
> guide, I wonder if they would entertain the idea of using similar paper for
> the book as they use for Australian bank notes - you'd have a guide that
> would be completely waterproof and that much more useful in the field as
> well as more resistant to normal wear and tear.
>  Just an idea.
>  Cheers,
>
>  Tony
>
>
> www.tonykeenebirds.co.uk
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