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To: "Tony Palliser" <>
Subject: Cocos-Christmas
From: "" <>
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 17:40:40 +1100
Great to see a separate column on your site now Tony giving the totals without 
external territories. I have no problem with either sides of "the fence" and 
can understand both arguments, but it is interesting to have it split. I know i 
won't be in a position to get there any time soon so its great to be able to 
compare totals on a more level field.

I know this has probably been discussed before, but why isn't Australian 
Antarctic territory able to be counted?

Also are Boigu and Sabai counted in the separation into territories or are they 
"mainland" Australia? I must confess I find it amusing how close they are to 
mainland PNG! Sorry - not wanting to open another can, but i am genuinely 
curious.

Cheers
David Stowe


On 09/01/2011, at 1:37 PM, Tony Palliser wrote:

> For many birding is a listing game (myself included) and even though Cocos
> and Christmas is a long way from the mainland many like to include species
> from such localities on their lists as they are part of Australia and
> furthermore they are fantastic places to visit.  Naturally if you are a
> world lister chances are you would be better off visiting another country
> but others would argue that it is more exciting to find a rarity in your own
> country or territory than to see birds that are just ticks overseas (many of
> which will be forgotten not long after seeing them).
>
> Some of us like to maintain world lists, country lists, state lists, family
> lists, year lists etc, so it is all a matter of what you are collecting as
> an individual. The positive side to Cocos and Christmas Island is that (a)
> they are including within our Christidis and Boles checklist (b) It has
> greatly increased our knowledge and awareness of the wildlife of these areas
> (c) provided valuable tourism dollars for those that live there and (d)
> further highlighted the conservation requirements and (e) it's a great
> excuse to visit places one would never normally venture to - one of the
> reasons in my opinion that birding is such a wonderful pastime.
>
> Sure if a common bird which you have seen many times overseas turns up on
> Cocos (Common teal for example) it would be a very costly exercise to twitch
> it but if a once in a life time weather system is turning up lots of birds
> then it does become viable and a great deal of fun and finding a new bird
> like a European Roller for Cocos/Australia is very exciting and for me
> seeing a new family in some distant overseas country is just as rewarding. I
> reckon if you want a big Australian list and are prepared to include
> external territories then now is the time to consider a trip to Cocos and
> Christmas Islands.
>
> That said I do agree that adding the Falklands to the British List is just
> not on and including Cocos and Christmas Islands is not that different, but
> again it does help to promote the conservation of wildlife at these
> localities so I remain firmly in favour of including them.
>
> To make our listing game a little more interesting I have enhanced the
> totals page recently to include mainland totals - just for fun of course.
>
> http://www.tonypalliser.com/totals.html
>
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
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