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Capturing Princess Parrots and Scarlet-chested parrots in the wild even

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Capturing Princess Parrots and Scarlet-chested parrots in the wild even though common in captivity
From: Chris Sanderson <>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:02:44 +1000
I'm pretty sure behaviour is a huge clue as to the origin of a bird.  I was
once shown a pet store (that was subsequently reported to the relevant
authorities) that had a mixture of captive bred and wild finches.  We
guessed the wild finches were from Cape York given the species mix and which
subspecies they had.  The person I was with had been a very experienced
aviculturalist and was able to point out by behaviour which birds were wild
and which were not.  It was quite educational.  I suspect with parrots it
would be similar, with animals being more aggressive/scared, but it would be
good to hear from someone in the know.

Regards,
Chris

On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Peter Shute <> wrote:

> DOnald, you're suggesting that a wild captured parrot might be worth more
> than an aviary bred one. It might well be true that a breeder would value
> one more highly for the reason you stated, but would it be possible for them
> to verify that it wasn't a run of the mill aviary bred bird? Would they look
> different in any way?
>
> I.e would it be possible for a poacher to get the price they need to make
> it worth while?
>
> Peter Shute
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 
> >  On Behalf Of
> > Donald G. Kimball
> > Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 8:59 AM
> > To: 
> > Subject: [Birding-Aus] Capturing Princess Parrots and
> > Scarlet-chested parrots in the wild even though common in captivity
> >
> > Hi Folks:
> >
> > I thought I would weigh in and ask some questions here since
> > being from North America I might have a different
> > perspective.  As someone who has been delighted to see and
> > film both of these 2 species in the wild in Aus and having
> > kept princess in my aviaries in Canada I had some thoughts on this.
> >
> > First of all I might need some help here but regarding
> > Princess is there not literature that suggests that even
> > relatively recently on the Canning Stock Route it has been
> > recorded that nests have been robbed and historically other
> > locations as well?  If so since Princess are cheap even here
> > in North America (I can obtain a pair for about 450.00 US)
> > why would nests be vulnerable to predation by humans?  Is
> > egg-collecting common in Australia like the UK?
> >
> > Regarding Scarlet-chests I am wondering the same thing.  I
> > havent had aviaries now for 20 years but if I put on my
> > aviculture hat on I am wondering if the appeal would be for
> > genetically rigorous stock from the wild to inject into
> > aviary blood-lines.
> >
> > Please understand I am not wanting to kick any sleeping
> > rottweilers here with my thoughts.  I simply love parrots and
> > would feel saddened to  know any indiscretion on my part may
> > have caused the demise of nesting success with these 2
> > species in the wild.  One thing to consider on a global bird
> > conservation scale  is that we dont even know how common
> > Princess are in the wild let alone what specific requirements
> > they need to thrive as they are so under studied.
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback on this one as I constantly am
> > confronted with the difficulty of whether to reveal specific
> > locations on these 2 species or not.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Don Kimball
> > http://polytelismedia.wordpress.com/
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