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Capturing Princess Parrots and Scarlet-chested parrots in the wild even

To: "Donald G. Kimball" <>, "" <>
Subject: Capturing Princess Parrots and Scarlet-chested parrots in the wild even though common in captivity
From: Peter Shute <>
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:46:35 +1000
DOnald, you're suggesting that a wild captured parrot might be worth more than 
an aviary bred one. It might well be true that a breeder would value one more 
highly for the reason you stated, but would it be possible for them to verify 
that it wasn't a run of the mill aviary bred bird? Would they look different in 
any way?

I.e would it be possible for a poacher to get the price they need to make it 
worth while?

Peter Shute

> -----Original Message-----
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>  On Behalf Of
> Donald G. Kimball
> Sent: Thursday, 17 June 2010 8:59 AM
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> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Capturing Princess Parrots and
> Scarlet-chested parrots in the wild even though common in captivity
>
> Hi Folks:
>
> I thought I would weigh in and ask some questions here since
> being from North America I might have a different
> perspective.  As someone who has been delighted to see and
> film both of these 2 species in the wild in Aus and having
> kept princess in my aviaries in Canada I had some thoughts on this.
>
> First of all I might need some help here but regarding
> Princess is there not literature that suggests that even
> relatively recently on the Canning Stock Route it has been
> recorded that nests have been robbed and historically other
> locations as well?  If so since Princess are cheap even here
> in North America (I can obtain a pair for about 450.00 US)
> why would nests be vulnerable to predation by humans?  Is
> egg-collecting common in Australia like the UK?
>
> Regarding Scarlet-chests I am wondering the same thing.  I
> havent had aviaries now for 20 years but if I put on my
> aviculture hat on I am wondering if the appeal would be for
> genetically rigorous stock from the wild to inject into
> aviary blood-lines.
>
> Please understand I am not wanting to kick any sleeping
> rottweilers here with my thoughts.  I simply love parrots and
> would feel saddened to  know any indiscretion on my part may
> have caused the demise of nesting success with these 2
> species in the wild.  One thing to consider on a global bird
> conservation scale  is that we dont even know how common
> Princess are in the wild let alone what specific requirements
> they need to thrive as they are so under studied.
>
> Thanks for your feedback on this one as I constantly am
> confronted with the difficulty of whether to reveal specific
> locations on these 2 species or not.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Don Kimball
> http://polytelismedia.wordpress.com/
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