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Lyrebirds learning artificial sounds

To: Peter Shute <>
Subject: Lyrebirds learning artificial sounds
From: Chris Charles <>
Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:17:54 +1100
A fair identification of a off-the-cuff pseudo factoid Phillip.
However for a bird flying at 15m/sec & uttering a cry in the 800hz range, the difference between the approaching frequency & the leaving frequency (30m/sec) is about 65hz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Doppler_effect

I am not sure if I can really detect 65hz or 8% change but this is approximately the difference between G5th & F5th http:// www.phy.mtu.edu/~suits/notefreqs.html Nevertheless I think I perceive a lower frequency as they depart. Similarly with overflying Ravens - the last 'aahhhh' always sounds more mournful than when they are approaching, dont you think?.

Regards, Chris

Chris Charles
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On 13/02/2010, at 12:07 PM, Peter Shute wrote:

How fast do YTBCs fly? I'm sure I've heard the doppler effect of relatively slow moving cars, but I think the fact that birds don't make a continuous sound would make it hard to detect the effect.

Perhaps people are confusing the rise and fall in loudness with true doppler effect, but either would be equally impressive to hear from a Lyrebird.

Peter Shute


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