Combining BA - BOCA About Bloody Time!

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Subject: Combining BA - BOCA About Bloody Time!
From: Simon Mustoe <>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 09:13:41 +0000

I'm not sure how wader study activities are a factor in the merger between BA 
and BOCA. Surely that's an animal welfare issue and a digression? Birding 
pelagics use copious amounts of shark liver and are contributing to 
over-fishing of top predators and, at the same time, modifying the behaviour of 
seabirds at sea (an equally manifest animal welfare issue and something I 
personally have strong views on). However, despite the fact that BOCA and BA 
run pelagics, I would never consider this to be an over-riding factor in any 
decision to support / not support a merger. It just doesn't make sense. There 
are much more significant conservation issues at stake.



> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:48:06 +1030
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> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Combining BA - BOCA About Bloody Time!
> Its interesting how people can have such a different view on the same
> subject.   I disagree with the amalgamation proposal.  Traditionally the
> two organizations follow different policies offering separate
> attractions to their members .  Does this mean now that BOCA supports
> cannon netting and wader leg flagging with all the hideous impacts
> caused to birds by this practice?   Although once upon a time I was
> involved with field collecting and banding projects, I observed the
> evils of it and now, I would prefer to support an organization that
> pursues passive study methods.   In the past BOCA stood apart from the
> other organization by always insisting on welfare of birds first and
> pursuing an agenda based on passive field study which earned my respect. 
> Another major issue is the different financial commitments of each
> organization.   Effective conservation land management is very expensive
> and BA appears to have over committed itself in land acquisition
> projects.   While strategic land acquisition for nature conservation is
> a worthy practice, will BOCA members now have to pickup costs of running
> over stretched BA reserves?
> I think amalgamation with BA is a bad move, will do nothing for the
> conservation of birds but will leave a great space for a new
> organization to fill the niche.
> Cheers
> Ian May
> St Helens Tasmania
> Simon Mustoe wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I just want to say how utterly delighted I am to receive a letter proposing 
> >the possible integration of BA and BOCA in future. At a time when we should 
> >be focused entirely on conservation, it is unthinkable that our peak bird 
> >conservation groups should remain divided.
> >
> >I don't care how it is done...we need a national peak conservation group 
> >representing birds and the Australian landscape. How fitting that this 
> >effort should begin during the 2010 year of biodiversity.
> >
> >Good on you everyone at BA and BOCA involved in this. I completely endorse 
> >what you are trying to do and hope that your respective committee's can find 
> >the same common ground in the meeting rooms, as our bird life and 
> >Australia's birders do in the bush.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Simon.
> >
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