I'm afraid I have to disagree with some of this message.
A number of doves do have 'collars', but the Laughing Dove, Streptopelia
senegalensis, is not one of them.
The Birds of Africa (Urban, Fry, and Keith) Volume 2 lists in the entry for the
Eurasian Collared Dove, Streptopelia decaocto,
the following citation -
Columba risoria L. var. decaocto Frivaldsky, 1838, K magyar tudos...etc
This is almost certainly the origin of the risoria appellation, and may have
led to the confusion with the Laughing Dove because,
as Jobling lists in his 'Dictionary of Scientific Bird Names', -
risoria Med. L. risorie, mocking (L. risor, risoris, a laugher; ridere, to
laugh).
The entry in Wikipedia throws further light on the 'Barbary Dove' -
The Ringneck Dove, Ring Dove, or Barbary Dove, Streptopelia risoria, is a
domestic member of the dove family (Columbidae)
Although the Ringneck Dove is normally assigned its own systematic name, as
Streptopelia risoria, considerable doubt exists as to its
appropriate classification. Some sources confidently assert that it is a
domestic form of the Eurasian Collared Dove, S decaocto, but the
majority of evidence points to it being a domesticated form of the African
Collared Dove, S. roseogrisea. It appears that it can hybridise
freely with either species, and its status as a species must therefore be
regarded as doubtful. However because of the wide use of
both common and systematic names, it is best to consider it separately from
either of the putative parent species.
Regards, Clive.
-----Original Message-----
From: Katrina Knight <>
To:
Sent: Fri, Jan 22, 2010 7:39 am
Subject: Barbary Dove
At 05:19 PM 01/21/2010 michael wood wrote:
>John Tongue is right. They are two quite different birds, one >established in
>and around Perth, WA (Laughing Dove), and the >other that is infiltrating
>locations in south-eastern Australia >(Barbary Dove or African Collared Dove).
>I've become quite >familiar with both, the latter in the northern suburbs of
>>Adelaide. And their calls are quite different, so there >shouldn't really be
>any confusion there.
I did some research into doves with collars a while back when I wanted to
identify a bird that showed up in my mother's yard. There seems to be a lot of
confusion about these birds, partly because they have multiple names and partly
because Barbary Doves are probably not really a good separate species.
Barbary Doves are known as Streptopelia risoria. They're also called Ringed
Turtle-Doves or Ringed Doves. They're generally regarded as a domestic form of
the Streptopelia senegalensis, which is commonly called African Collared-Dove,
Laughing Turtle-Dove or Laughing Dove depending on who is doing the calling.
Typically, Barbary Doves look like a much paler version of the African
Collared-Dove/Laughing Dove. In some places, Barbary Doves are reputed to look
more like a paler version of Eurasian Collared-Doves, and there may or may not
be some hybridization going on where they meet. (I can't tell from the
information in Pizzey & Knight whether the Barbary Doves established in
Australia are a form with more Eurasian Collared-Dove genes in them. If they
are, that complicates the issue.) Eurasian Collared-Doves are Streptopeleia
decaocto. The appearance of all three can be similar if you're not familiar
with them. I've seen numerous Eurasian Collared-Doves but only one
Barbary/African Collared-Dove. (The one that I saw looked like the wild
version, but given that it was visiting my mother's back yard in the eastern
US, I think it is safe to say that it actually was a domestic escapee.) The
differences become more obvious if you're familiar with at least one of them.
There's some simple information about separating Eurasian Collared-Doves from
Barbary Doves here <http://www.birdsource.org/Features/EUCDOV/>.
Eurasian Collared-Doves sound very different from typical Barbary Doves. Sound
is generally considered the easier way to tell them apart if there's a chance
of both being there. If you're dealing with Barbary Doves that have Eurasian
Collared-Dove ancestors, I'm not sure what sounds they'd make though. I would
expect that enough Eurasian-collared Dove ancestry could result in Barbary
Doves that sound more like Eurasian Collared-Doves as well as well as looking
more like them.
In any case, there's a recording of a Barbary Dove here
<http://drc01.drc.ohiolink.edu/handle/2374.OX/55686?show=full> and a video with
sound of two of them here <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVXEgl2B9Pc>. There
are links to several clips of Eurasian Collared-Doves here
<http://www.junglewalk.com/sound/dove-sounds.htm>.
--
Katrina Knight
Reading, PA, USA
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