Re 'Jabiru'

To: "'Tony Russell'" <>
Subject: Re 'Jabiru'
From: "Philip Veerman" <>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 23:15:24 +1100
Surely their proper name is the Australian Black Satin-necked non-jabiru
Stork. (joke)

Why doesn't some book author take the initiative to rename some bird
groups to simpler things, like rename the Cuckoo-shrikes as Cush e.g.
"Black-faced Cush" and likewise invent other new names, so we can
dispense with all those silly names like "Cuckoo-shrike" (not a joke).
After all, names are just labels, why not have distinctive ones that
don't give wrong impressions.

Philip Veerman
24 Castley Circuit
Kambah  ACT  2902
02 - 62314041

-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Tony Russell
Sent: Monday, 23 November 2009 7:47 PM
To: 'Greg & Val Clancy'; 'Chris Ross'
Subject: Re 'Jabiru'

As we only get one of them in Oz does it really matter what we call it ?
As WS would have said "Much ado about nothing".

BTW, I heard the other day that someone is making shoes out of Cane Toad
skins. Wart on earth will they think of next !


-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Greg & Val
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 5:36 PM
To: Chris Ross
Subject: Re 'Jabiru'

Hi Chris,

The problem is that the species (or subspecies) also occurs in New
Guinea so 
it can't be Australian Jabiru and remember 'Jabiru' means 'swollen neck'

which is hardly suitable for our slender-necked species.

I received an email asking for more information on why the subspecies
may be 
considered for species status in the future.  The writer also said
don't say that it is based on DNA!!!

Well it is based on DNA.  Tissue samples were analysed from two
Storks, one an Australian bird and the other a captive bird believed to
been from Asia.  The genetic distances were apparently further apart
those between some other stork species.  The most likely  conclusion
could be made from this is that we have two species.  Christidis and
were going to split the species but decided to await further DNA
before doing so.  Hence the species was not split in the 2008 edition. I

hope that I have explained the genetics properly as it is not my field.

Greg Clancy
Coutts Crossing

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