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Jabiru ust isn't ours to take

To: Carl Clifford <>
Subject: Jabiru ust isn't ours to take
From: Tom Tarrant <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:01:30 +1000
Kevin07?

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Carl Clifford <>wrote:

> Kevin? Kevin who?
>
>
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> On 19/11/2009, at 6:40 PM, Ian May wrote:
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> I didn't know kevin was on the list!
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> Alistair McKeough wrote:
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>  Sorry
>>
>>
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>> On 11/19/09, Alistair McKeough <> wrote:
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>>  Aplogies Carl - I over-reacted. I just found the implication that
>>> using a bird's name followed on from  a path of murder and cultural
>>> destruction in the same vein a bit offensive - On reflection I see you
>>> didn't mean it that way.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/19/09, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
>>>
>>>  You are? Ah well, if you choose to interpret it that way. I would be
>>>> interested to hear from any other members if they think I have mounted
>>>> a personal attack on you in particular or anyone else in general.
>>>>
>>>> Perplexedly,
>>>>
>>>> Carl Clifford
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19/11/2009, at 4:36 PM, Alistair McKeough wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yay, you like the name and you're equated to a genocidal monster.
>>>>
>>>> 2009/11/19 Carl Clifford <>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> The name Jabiru was recorded as the name for the Central-South
>>>> American stork in the mid 1600s and as the bird belongs to the genus
>>>> Jabiru, I reckon it has prior claim to the name. The Australian stork
>>>> in question was given the name Jabiru because it was mistaken for the
>>>> American bird. Jabiru is not even an Australian Aboriginal name, it
>>>> comes from the language of the Tupi people of coastal Brazil.
>>>> Europeans stole their land, murdered them, enslaved them and nearly
>>>> exterminated them. I don't think we should add further insult by
>>>> misappropriating one of their bird names, just because some people
>>>> here like the sound of it.
>>>>
>>>> Common names for birds are in enough a mess as it is, without people
>>>> wanting to retain wrong names just because they like the sound of them.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Carl Clifford
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