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Jabiru ust isn't ours to take

To: Carl Clifford <>, Birding-Aus Aus <>
Subject: Jabiru ust isn't ours to take
From: Alistair McKeough <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:29:26 +1100
Aplogies Carl - I over-reacted. I just found the implication that
using a bird's name followed on from  a path of murder and cultural
destruction in the same vein a bit offensive - On reflection I see you
didn't mean it that way.



On 11/19/09, Carl Clifford <> wrote:
> You are? Ah well, if you choose to interpret it that way. I would be
> interested to hear from any other members if they think I have mounted
> a personal attack on you in particular or anyone else in general.
>
> Perplexedly,
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 19/11/2009, at 4:36 PM, Alistair McKeough wrote:
>
> Yay, you like the name and you're equated to a genocidal monster.
>
> 2009/11/19 Carl Clifford <>
> Dear All,
>
> The name Jabiru was recorded as the name for the Central-South
> American stork in the mid 1600s and as the bird belongs to the genus
> Jabiru, I reckon it has prior claim to the name. The Australian stork
> in question was given the name Jabiru because it was mistaken for the
> American bird. Jabiru is not even an Australian Aboriginal name, it
> comes from the language of the Tupi people of coastal Brazil.
> Europeans stole their land, murdered them, enslaved them and nearly
> exterminated them. I don't think we should add further insult by
> misappropriating one of their bird names, just because some people
> here like the sound of it.
>
> Common names for birds are in enough a mess as it is, without people
> wanting to retain wrong names just because they like the sound of them.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Carl Clifford
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