One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome

To: "'Gary Wright'" <>, "'Greg & Val Clancy'" <>, "'birding aus'" <>
Subject: One arm point and beyond(dampier peninsula, near Broome
From: "Greg Little" <>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:33:28 +1100

I have always since a kid called the Black-faced Cuckoo-shrike the Blue
Jay, not sure why, may have come from an early Leach field guide.

Greg Little

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-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of Gary Wright
Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2009 3:38 PM
To: Greg & Val Clancy; birding aus
Subject: One arm point and beyond(dampier
peninsula,near Broome

Hi Greg

Like Alastair I personally like all of the old names, like Blue
winged chough), but I accept  having standard English names so we don't
to use  scientific names is a good thing.  I like the name Satin Stork
as I
think it is beautiful and descriptive of the bird.


2009/11/19 Greg & Val Clancy <>

> Hi Gary,
> I read you post with interest and noted that you hate using the name
> 'Black-necked Stork'.  The neck is actually black, with a blue-green
> and although probably not the most appropriate name for the species it
> been in use in Asia and Australia since at least the late 1880's.  The
> books that I used when starting out birding many years back all called
> "Jabiru' and that is what I knew it as for many years.  Having
> completed my PhD studies on the species I am now a strong advocate for
> calling it "Jabiru'.  The reasons for this are: it is not a Jabiru - a
> Jabiru is a South American stork species which has only a few
> to our elegant bird; 'Jabiru' is a Tupi-Guarani name for the species
> means 'swollen neck', referring to its habit of inflating its bald
> pouch, very different to our slender necked species; the south
American bird
> has precedence over the name which is also its generic name.
> When I hear or read the name 'Back-necked Stork' I visualise the
> elegant bird that it is I don't lament the loss of a totally
> name for Australia's only stork species.  However if 'Black-necked
Stork' is
> too much to bear you will be happy to know that when the New Guinea
> Australian populations of this species are separated out from the
> populations, which is likely in the future, the name 'Satin Stork'
> hopefully, be applied to our birds.  This name received support from
> Birds Australia Common Names Committee but it will only be with
> acceptance that it will become 'set in stone.'  So far I have received
> large amount of support for the name.  I hope you will also support
> Greg Clancy
> Ecologist
> Coutts Crossing

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