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RFI : Twitcher questions re NEW SPECIES FORAUSTRALIA?

To: "'Gary Davidson'" <>, "'birding-aus'" <>
Subject: RFI : Twitcher questions re NEW SPECIES FORAUSTRALIA?
From: "Tony Russell" <>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:34:21 +0930
Maybe we should leave out Tasmania then ?

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 On Behalf Of Gary Davidson
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:33 AM
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Subject: RFI : Twitcher questions re NEW SPECIES
FORAUSTRALIA?












It might be interesting to note that in North America, the American
Birding Association, (ABA) defines the ABA North America checklist area
as the continental USA and Canada, it does not include Hawaii, which, of
course, is one of the 50 states. Gary

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Ian May <> wrote:


From: Ian May <>
Subject: RFI : Twitcher questions re NEW SPECIES FOR
AUSTRALIA?
To: "Birding Aus" <>
Received: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 5:37 PM


<>
Hi all

While counting up my Australian bird list recently some questions were
raised by a non birding friend re geographical limits that apply to
record species on the Australian national list.  I showed some recent
posts about Christmas Island birds titled "New Species for Australia"
indicating that this is what we do and generally the list is developed
around political boundaries relating to the nation and its territories.

However I was unable to give easy answers to the questions. 
For example, if the reason is political boundaries, why are not all New
Guinea birds recorded on the Ausie historical list?    Are birds
recorded from French Polynesia in the Pacific or Reunion Island in the
Indian Ocean considered part of the French national bird list?   Are
birds recorded from Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean part of the UK bird
list?     Outside of Australia do others follow the same rules?  If so
is there any part of the world that would not qualify for the US
list?   The exercise has left me wondering about the rationale of
recording national bird lists.

During the exercise some interesting geographic facts about Australia
and its territories were indicated.
The closest Australian mainland location to Christmas Island (South
Point) is North West Cape (Jabiru Point), distance 830 Nm. (1538 km.)   
However the distance from Christmas Island to Java, Indonesia is only185
Nm.   Cocos Island to Australia (Jabiru Point) is 1137 Nm (approx. 2100
km)..

Hoping we can have a friendly discussion about this subject.

Regards


Ian May
PO Box 110
St Helens Tasmania

0428 337956


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