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Canada Goose Cull

To: "'Chris Sanderson'" <>, "'Carl Clifford'" <>, "'Birding-Aus (Forum)'" <>
Subject: Canada Goose Cull
From: "Tony Russell" <>
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:53:06 +0930
In the same way as we stop spam and viruses getting through into our PCs
airliners should have bird filters fitted to the engine intakes.

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 On Behalf Of Chris Sanderson
Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 1:07 PM
To: Carl Clifford; Birding-Aus (Forum)
Subject: Canada Goose Cull


While in no way defending the cull (which I also think is ridiculous),
I'd like to point out that if airlines could avoid bird strikes they
would.  A single White Ibis strike on the Gold Coast a few years back
was estimated to have cost Qantas about $3 million dollars, and any
strike where a bird is ingested into engines is heinously expensive, not
just in terms of mechanical repairs, but lost staff and flight time,
replacement aircraft, and reworking logistics.  Believe me when I say if
this were as simple as putting money into it, the problem would have
been solved years ago.

Regards,
Chris

On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Carl Clifford
<>wrote:

> Most major bird strikes such as the recent one in New York, don't
> happen within the precincts of an airport, so how do the airlines
> expect the airports to control birds there? I believe there have been
> bird strikes recorded at altitudes of between 6-10,000 metres, and an
> aircraft has been recorded as hitting a Rüppells Vulture at 11,000+
> Metres over Africa. I think it is about time the airlines faced up to
> their responsibilities. But then they cost money, don't they.
>
> Carl Clifford
>
>
> On 20/06/2009, at 12:41 PM, Stephen Ambrose wrote:
>
> the major airline companies take an alternative point of view. Their
> view is that they pay the airport authorities a lot of money to land,
> depart and "park" their planes at airports. Therefore, they believe it
> is the responsibility of the airports to provide a safe environment
> (air-space around the airport) when planes are taking off or coming
into
> land.
>
>
> Stephen Ambrose
> Ryde, NSW
>
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