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Buff-breasted Sandpiper

To: "'John Tongue'" <>, "'Alex Farias'" <>
Subject: Buff-breasted Sandpiper
From: "Tony Russell" <>
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 09:40:00 +1030
Onyer John.

-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of John Tongue
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 7:08 AM
To: Alex Farias
Cc: Birding Aus
Subject: Buff-breasted Sandpiper


What a terrible attitude!

Just because you want to see a bird, doesn't give you the right to  
trespass on someone else's property, nor to berate another person who  
has had the fortune to see it.  Sure, it might be disappointing that  
Chris has had the opportunity to see this bird and you have not (and  
maybe the manner in which he reported it raised the possibility of  
others being upset, but without knowing the circumstances of Chris'  
sightings, you do not know what may be put in jeopardy by him  
divulging the location.

If the attitude of some is "twitch at all costs, and hang the rest of  
you", then I'm glad Chris did not specify where he saw the bird!

He has said that he will give more details if and when he is able, but  
if this is the response he gets, then I wouldn't blame him for just  
keeping any information entirely to himself next time.

Come on, let's have some responsible birding!

John Tongue
Ulverstone, Tas.


On 02/03/2009, at 7:11 AM, Alex Farias wrote:

> Hi,
>
> So correct me if I'm wrong, it's a private property.  (Like many
> where other twtichable rarities show up) and you just don't  want to  
> bother the owner..
>
> Ok,  I just not sure that you don't get pleasure from gripping off
> others. If you didn't you would get out of you comfort zone and help  
> the community.
>
> If you don't want us to see it, next time there is no need to report
> to everyone in the list with pictures, etc. only the rarities  
> committee should know.
>
>
> I usually a very friendly guy, but lifers are hard to come by this  
> days, and when a duffer it's showing off that he saw the third or  
> fourth record of a BBS in Australia, posting pictures and a note:  
> "by the way folks, I'm the only one allowed to see it, please don't  
> ask me where I saw it".  It's kind of upsetting.
>
>
> Regards,
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chris Barnes <>
> To: Chris Sanderson <>; Alex Farias
< 
> >; Birding Aus <>
> Sent: Sunday, 1 March, 2009 6:55:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper
>
>
> Thanks Chris,
>
> I was wondering how to tackle this inevitable debate. It's not a  
> military area but access to the site is for surveys only at this  
> stage & carry strict regulations. No viewing areas from public roads  
> exist. As one who has gained the trust of the folk who run it, I am  
> not willing to compromise this. At this stage no access will be  
> allowed during the working week. If there is the possibility of  
> getting in later, I will let everyone know when & if I get the go  
> ahead. I don't get pleasure from gripping off others & would love  
> everyone who wants to see this bird have a chance at it. It is a  
> wader tho & at this time of year anything could happen.
>
> Apologies for the anguish this might cause. I know how I'd feel if  
> it were a Nordmann's Greenshank!  I did think twice about reporting  
> it for this reason but suppressing it wouldn't have been looked  
> kindly upon either.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris.
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:Chris Sanderson 
> Sent: Sunday, 1 March 2009 10:29 AM
> To: Alex Farias; Chris Barnes; Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper
>
> Alex,
>
> My guess is that Chris has been granted permission to access a  
> sensitive area (military perhaps?) that no one else is likely to be  
> granted access to for any reason.  Knowing where the bird is would  
> only tempt people to break in so why give them that temptation?
>
> Regards,
> Chris
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Tony Russell  
> <> wrote:
> I wish he was kidding but I don't think so.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
>  On Behalf Of Alex Farias
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 8:15 AM
> To: Chris Barnes; Birding Aus
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper
>
>
> Chris,
>
> You Kidding, right?
>
> Why it is not twichtable?
>
> rgs
> Alex
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chris Barnes <>
> To: Birding Aus <>
> Sent: Saturday, 28 February, 2009 6:14:17 PM
> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Buff-breasted Sandpiper
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> This morning had a Buff-breasted Sandpiper in Bundaberg (SEQld) for  
> 2.5
> hrs with Nev Cap ell whilst doing a regular count. It was eventually  
> put
> off by a sea-eagle & has not been seen since. Unfortunately the area  
> has
> restricted access & the bird will not be twitchable so please don't  
> ask
> me for specific site details.
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Ps I have got pictures but contact me if interested rather than send  
> to
> the B-Aus list please.
>
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