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Albatrosses

To: "John Tongue" <>
Subject: Albatrosses
From: "Dave Torr" <>
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:58:30 +1000
They are not great "splitters" in this area John - the answers are

No
No (they do not have ANYTHING on races at all)
No
and of course No. (Don't recognise Antipodean at all)

So looks like only 14 ticks!



2008/7/26 John Tongue <>:

> Hi all,
> I'm a little reluctant to ask this, and think I might duck until the dust
> settles, BUT....
>
> Can someone help with what Christidis and Boles list for the following
> Albatross taxonomy (I don't have access to C&B).
>
> We went on our first Pelagic yesterday (great day, thanks Ian May et. al. -
> so helpful to have experienced hands who knew their ID's),  and added either
> 14, 15, 16, 17 or 18 lifers, depending on the currently "accepted" (I use
> the word with some apprehension) Albatross taxonomy.
>
> My questions  in particular are:
>
> 1. Do C&B recognize Northern and Southern Royal Albatross as separate
> Species or not?
>
> 2. Do they have Salvin's Albatross as a separate species to Shy, or only as
> a race?
>
> 3. Do they have Campbell Albatrosses split from Black-browed?  and
>
> 4. Do they have gibsoni as a race of the separate species of Antipodes
> Albatross, or as a race of Wandering Albatross?
>
> Which ever books and guides I look at give me different answers to these
> questions, so thought I'd better look to what C&B have
>
> Thanks in advance - now I'll go take a Bex and lie down until the 'shouting
> and the tumult dies', and see what we've come up with.
>
> Cheers,
> John Tongue
> Ulverstone, Tas.
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