Free Trips

To: "Jan England" <>
Subject: Free Trips
From: "Douglas Carver" <>
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:26:06 -0600
Hear hear!  I have been shocked at all of the begrudgers.  I would have no
problem with the organizer's costs being spread amongst those on the trip --
in fact, I presume that is the case, and don't bother with finding out.  It
is hard enough to coordinate schedules for something as minor as getting a
group of friends to see a film -- I shudder to think about the cat-herding
involved in a twitching expedition.

Douglas Carver
Albuquerque, NM

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:36 AM, Jan England <>

> As someone who was criticised for getting the occasional free trip (on
> other occasions I gave the free portion away to other members of the group)
> which I used to organise (not overseas), it has been very interesting to
> read comments in this debate.  Since then, I haven't bothered to do it and
> of course no one has taken a trip to this venue since.  I did it because it
> was such a wonderful experience to visit this site and to see the look of
> enjoyment and excitement on the faces of birders when they saw so many new
> birds. This was the only place in Qld to see many of these birds and not
> something that most people would bother to do by themselves.
> Shame to think that so many new birders have missed out on this experience
> because of someone's pettiness.
> If your prepared to go to the trouble to organise a trip, then good luck to
> you and no one has to go if they don't want to.  I'm more than happy to go
> on trips organised by someone where their cost is shared amongst the group
> as you are using their expertise, their knowledge of the birds, places,
> contacts, accommodation, etc. and I believe it is well worth my contribution
> towards their trip.
> Jan
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