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The decline of ornithological publications - practical ways to help

To: "Chris Lloyd" <>
Subject: The decline of ornithological publications - practical ways to help
From: David Stowe <>
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 14:23:18 +1000
Would it be possible for someone with appropriate knowledge to post a simple list of things that the average birder could do to help on the average family holiday while out doing some birding? And how to go about it? How about something that can be found in the b-aus archives (with appropriate subject line) and aimed at the less experienced birder who perhaps doesn't know about the birds australia atlas for example? Whilst atlassing isn't directly publishing by that person, it certainly contributes and i'm sure alot of people are still not aware of its value. No doubt there are other things, how to take notes etc that someone could write up for the benefit of all?

Cheers
Dave

PS - sorry Chris, this isn't really a direct response to your excellent email. I think if more courses were offered cheaply there might be a bigger uptake.





On 28/05/2008, at 1:51 PM, Chris Lloyd wrote:

I agree with much of what Lawrie Conole has said on the subject but would
just add there has been a decline in other aspects of 'amateur' (the
original meaning and the use of the word in Italian, is very different to that now understood) ornithology. The number of banders is a source for concern for example. Reading 1960s editions of "The Bird Bander" gives an interesting picture of the 'amateur' basis of much of the historical data collection which underpins current ornithology. Perhaps we need more access to skills such as morphometrics, banding, behaviour and counts for those who do not want to undertake university courses? But in a 'time poor' society would there be enough takers if short courses in these subject areas were more freely available? Would people maintain the skills through regular use? Would we get more data and analysis of data if this were to occur? A NZ group I am a member of regularly runs week long field study courses and they get more skilled volunteer time as a consequence. I also noted teaching bird behaviour and physiology to wildlife rehabilitators for four years that a
small but growing group of bird watchers attended the courses.



While I can understand Steve's desire to move quickly through Pete Milburn's
data on the landscape the pelagic birds are found in. He may be more
interested if he was trained (apologies if this is not necessary Steve) and involved in the collection of such data. There are many 'train spotters' out there (and good luck to them there sighting are valuable biogeography) who
tick the Diomedea exulans gibbsoni (apologies to L. Smith) but have no
interest in coming down the ladder while one is being inspected and detected on the deck until you show how feather moult changes the appearance of old and new plumage and hence why mis-identification can occur. My point being that interest levels (and thereby potential contribution levels) rise with more skills and knowledge. If would be interesting how much more we gain if all the birders going out to the Darling could do a quick test for sediment, nutrients and algae while they visited spots that professional scientists
may only see when they are funded or there is an 'event'. Ciao

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