Greg, Tony
While I am not on Tony's side, I wonder where you draw the line? Dingoes
are non-native, European humans are not native. Even the aboriginal people
are non-native (only about 60,000 years). The desire for "preservation" of
the environment as it was at some chosen point in time is always going to be
subjective. So who has the right or the "correct" approach to deciding what
is the chosen time to be?? And for what/whose purpose? Evolution also
includes survival of the fittest, so aboriginal people in Australia suffer
almost to extinction because European people are "fitter".
I believe that our decisions and actions against "invasive" species is
always going to be subjective on an individual basis and arguments why it is
right or wrong are also always going to be subjective.
And those who wish to preserve some version of nature frozen at a particular
time will always fail, because we cannot control what happens in nature.
Bob Cook
Axedale VIC.
-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of Gregory Little
Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 11:25 AM
To: 'Tony Russell'; 'birding-aus birding-aus'
Subject: Canada Geese
Tony
And Cane Toads are just harmless toads and Camphor Laurel is a lovely
tree. Am disappointed to read your email. While culling or killing is
unpalatable it is necessary and I am sure the Canada Geese were removed
as humanely as possible. Who cares how. Regarding ferals, of course even
Europeans in Australia are introduced exotics if you look at it one way
but we may also be just a natural self introduction if you look at it
another way. However, when we drag all sorts of non native plants and
animals into an environment, anywhere on the planet, then they are going
to have an impact on that environment if they flourish and some native
plants and animals could potentially be lost and that environment
degraded in ways that are not always obvious. It is not worth the risk
of not nipping something in the bud (removing it) that could potentially
be an environmental problem. I feel the stance should be if it is not
native it does not belong so get rid of it (regardless of how nice it
looks) and have policies for that affect.
Greg Little
Greg Little - Principal Consultant
General Flora and Fauna
PO Box 526
Wallsend, NSW, 2287, Australia
Ph 02 49 556609
Fx 02 49 556671
www.gff.com.au
-----Original Message-----
From:
On Behalf Of Tony Russell
Sent: Friday, 14 March 2008 10:23 AM
To: 'Tony Russell'; 'birding-aus birding-aus'
Subject: Canada Geese
I just wonder how the geese were disposed of. Were they shot, injected,
or what ?
I guess those doing it worked under the charade of "euthanasia" - a
euphemism for killing, just as "culling" is another euphemism for
killing.
Presumably euthanasia and culling are more palatable terms which assuage
the killers' consciences.
Why is it that humans think they have the right, the arrogance, to kill
other life forms ?
I understand the conservation arguments re feral invasion and the
problems this may cause, but we've survived the influx of Cattle Egrets,
Starlings, House Sparrows, Common Miners,etc, and the incursions
Long-billed Corellas are making on the east coast - and Perth now has
quite a good population of these too, and the way Eastern Rosellas have
spread across into the Adelaide area. No great disasters. It's not like
foxes and cats which have destroyed populations of native animals -
these are birds we are talking about, harmless birds.
T.
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