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RFI Spotting Scopes

To: "'Carl Billingham'" <>, "'Birding Aus'" <>
Subject: RFI Spotting Scopes
From: "Paul Dodd" <>
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 19:30:23 +1100
The best advice I ever received about camera lenses was buy the best glass you 
can afford. I daresay the same applies to scopes.

The difference between the 80mm objective lenses and the 60mm is that the 80mm 
"gathers" more light - in other words, it will give you better images in low 
light conditions - which can be useful at dawn, dusk and in dark, overcast 
conditions.  A disadvantage with the larger bodies is that they are physically 
larger, and heavier - which matters when you're lugging the thing through the 
bush - in addition, a larger scope will require a sturdier (and heavier) 
tripod. The 80mm scopes will offer greater magnification with the same 
eyepieces. Most manufacturers list two magnifications (eg 16x/20x) for their 
eyepieces - the smaller magnification is what you get with the 60mm scopes, the 
larger magnification is what you get with the 80mm scopes.

I've used Leica scopes (and once you've looked through one of them, or a 
Swarovski, you won't want to look through anything else), and I've got friends 
with Kowa scopes. In my opinion, the Kowa scopes are good - for all up value 
for money, the Kowa scopes are hard to beat. The PROFESSIONAL quality Nikon and 
Pentax scopes also appear quite good. Don't bother with the cheapie Nikon 
scopes, or any other cheapies - you'll just regret it.

I've not tried digiscoping with an SLR - simply because I don't have an adapter 
and even if I did, my tripod is not sturdy enough. If you are going to try 
that, you may want to consider the larger scope rather than the smaller - 
firstly for the light gathering capabilities and secondly the size and weight 
of the larger scope will balance the SLR better. Alternatively, there are some 
good non-SLR digital cameras that you can use for digiscoping, whilst leaving 
your SLR with a long lens "free" - this is what I do. You may get some better 
information from some of the professional photographers on birding-aus, if they 
respond.

I currently have an angled scope, and wish I had a straight scope. I suspect 
this is very much a matter of personal opinion since there is no technical 
advantage one way or the other. I'm a shade over 6' tall, and if I had a 
straight scope I'd need a tripod that could raise the scope to my eye level. 
This wouldn't help my wife though, who is only 5'10"!

Paul Dodd
Docklands, Melbourne


-----Original Message-----
From:  
 On Behalf Of Carl Billingham
Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2008 11:56 AM
To: Birding Aus
Subject: RFI Spotting Scopes

I am considering buying my first scope.  My experience with scopes is very 
limited so I am looking for some advice.

I am currently considering a number of options.  The Kowa range seems to be 
quite popular with birders and I have been offered the TSN-601 (60mm scope 
body) and the TSN-821 (82mm scope body) at what I think are reasonable prices.  
Initially I am considering getting a 30/32mm wide angle eye piece instead of a 
zoom.

The main use for the scope is to try to figure out what those %^& waders 
are that I have been seeing distantly through my binoculars.

I also enjoy wildlife photography and have a Canon 20D digital SLR camera along 
with a very sturdy Manfrotto tripod with a uniball head.   I can see that 
eventually I will want to use the scope for some digiscoping as well.

My main questions are as follows:
What are the advantages/disadvantages between the 60 and 82mm scope sizes? 
(Price is not a major concern for me with this purchase)
Should I go for a straight or angled scope?
What scope would be peoples preference?
Oh, I am 6'3" - not sure if that makes much of a difference but it may do when 
considering whether to go for an angled or a straight through scope for 
digiscoping with the SLR attached.

Thanks in advance,

Carl Billingham


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