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Cormorant ID help required

To: inger vandyke <>
Subject: Cormorant ID help required
From: David Stowe <>
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:58:27 +1100
Hi all
I thought Stewart Island or King Shag at first too but i don't think there's enough black on the face. (I was fortunate to see and photograph them both a couple of months ago) They have the black starting below or at the base of the bill with a much thinner line of white under the chin than this bird appears to have. Bill looks a little bit too long and thin too but this might be a trick of the light so to speak.
Could it be an aberrant Pied Cormorant?
Does Mike know what it is?

Cheers
David Stowe

On 23/12/2007, at 12:49 PM, inger vandyke wrote:


Hi All,

From the experience I've had with New Zealand shags this almost looks to me like a non-breeding or immature King or Rough-faced Shag. If so this would be an amazing record as this bird is normally sedentary and population estimates I think are around 400 birds so this would be very rare.

There don't seem to be caruncles on this bird but in immatures or non-breeders these are small and hard to see anyway. Did Barbara get other pics?

I am not sure about aberrant plumaged Pieds. The pale bill wipes out the possibility of a Black-faced to me.

Certainly an interesting bird. The shot is also great because it allows an instant ID comparison with a Pied, Little Pied and Great Cormorants around it. Just my two bob's worth. Look forward to hearing about what others might think it is. Inger Vandyke > From: > To: ; > Subject: RE: [Birding-Aus] Cormorant ID help required> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:32:58 +1100> > &#0;&#0;> > Is it a New Zealand "blow in"?> > Greg Little> > Greg Little - Principal Consultant> General Flora and Fauna> PO Box 526> Wallsend, NSW, 2287, Australia> Ph 02 49 556609> Fx 02 49 556671> www.gff.com.au> > -----Original Message-----> From: > On Behalf Of Tom Tarrant> Sent: Sunday, 23 December 2007 10:48 AM> To: Birding-Aus> Subject: [Birding-Aus] Cormorant ID help required> > Hi All,> > Mike Carter has asked if I could post this unusual Cormorant taken at> Merimbula NSW> > http://www.aviceda.org/abid/newimages.php> > *I wonder if you could pass comment on the attached which one of our> members> took on Dec 9, 2007 at Short Point, Merimbula, NSW> We get the Black-faced Cormorants at Eden and rarely further north. They> are> usually on rocks or buoys. This one is odd because of the 'extra' black> on> the head and also being on the sand.> > Is it something interesting?> > Barbara Jones, Eden> > *Unfortunately Comments cannot be posted on ABID for the time-being (due> to> persistent 'spamming') so please pass on your thoughts via this> mailing-list.> > Tom> > -- > ********************************> Tom & Marie Tarrant> Samsonvale, Qld> > http://www.aviceda.org> > http://wildlife.vodpod.com/> ********************************> ===============================> www.birding-aus.org> birding- aus.blogspot.com> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message:> unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line)> to: > ===============================> > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1193 - Release Date:> 22/12/2007 2:02 PM> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.6/1193 - Release Date:> 22/12/2007 2:02 PM> > > ===============================> www.birding-aus.org> birding-aus.blogspot.com> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, > send the message:> unsubscribe > (in the body of the message, with no Subject line)> to: birding-aus- > ===============================
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