Pizzey 8 also lacks a collar
On 03/10/2007, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> Thanks, Philip. What do you mean by "incomplete"? Does the collar stop
> near the back of the neck? If so, would you still be able to see the
> two half collars if you were observing from above the bird?
>
> Getting back to the Pizzey illustrations, I guess it must be a mistake
> if they typically have it. Can anyone confirm that it's still not shown
> in Ed. 8?
>
> I also noticed that in the two small pictures of House and Tree Sparrows
> flying, from above, the House Sparrow picture shows a faint collar not
> shown on the Tree Sparrow. I wonder if there's been a little mix up
> there. If so, it's interesting that it hasn't been picked up before -
> perhaps noone's really looking at this species.
>
> Peter Shute
>
> Philip Veerman wrote on Wednesday, 3 October 2007 12:44 PM:
>
> > Good observation. Checking out also the illustration I did of them
> > and the photos of the specimens in my honours thesis about these
> > birds, yes they should have an incomplete whitish collar around the
> > back of the neck (but not all the way around). But I can't answer
> > about whether they ever not have the collar, just that they typically
> > do.
> >
> > Philip
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