Yes Dave, I'm very good at purposely misunderstanding stuff on this net.
From: Dave Torr
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:23 AM
To: Tony Russell
Cc: Peter Shute;
Subject: Spotting scopes
Quite agree - you would have to be a real contortionist to use an angled
eyepiece pointing downwards - even having it pointing "sideways" would
make life tricky. Maybe we are not understanding the original question?
On 26/09/2007, Tony Russell <> wrote:
> It seems to me that someone somewhere has got awfully muddled up.
> Surely an angled eyepiece is normally pointing up at 45degs from the
> scope body and one looks down into it at an opposite but similar
> 45degs. Most scopes have a mounting foot on the underside which
> attaches to the tripod with a quick release mechanism. Maybe there
> are some models which also allow rotation through 90degs to allow
viewing from the side
> but I haven't seen one of these. Dave Torr's description of having
> eyepiece pointing down would presumably involve lying on one's back (
> similar) looking up into the eyepiece which might I suppose suit a
> contortionist, but not your average birder. Would this also involve
> having the tripod legs pointing up into the air attached, presumably,
> sky hooks? I think I'd prefer to watch the rugby.
> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of Dave Torr
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:54 AM
> To: Peter Shute
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Spotting scopes
> I can't speak for other makes but on my Kowa there is an adjustable
> ring which allows you to rotate the scope body so the angled lens can
> point in any direction. But I can't see this is of much use - normally
> the angled lens points up and I bend over slightly to look down into
> it. If I had it pointing down then I would have to crouch down below
> the scope and look up - which seems very contorted. Or am I missing
> On 26/09/2007, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> > Not having used a scope before, I have a couple of questions about
> > this point about the line of sight.
> > - Ben mentioned "swinging the eyepiece around". I assume this means
> > that the eyepiece on some scopes can be swung from the up position
> > to the straight position. If so, can it also be swung into a down
> > position? If so, then that would surely be an advantage in the
> > situation Tom describes, as one could mount the scope 20cm above the
> > binocular line of sight.
> > - Is it possible to mount a scope upside down? I.e. with the angled
> > eyepiece angled down. If so, then that would have the same
> > advantage for fixed eyepieces. If not, then why not aren't they
> > designed like that?
> > Peter Shute
> > wrote on :
> > > I generally agree with all the comments about angled scopes, but
> > > just remember that the line of sight is probably going to be about
> > > 20cm lower than your eyeline and the scope needs to be set up
> > > accordingly - it's not normally an issue, but I have looked out
> > > over
> > > a shrub at waders on a muddy
> > > shore, but the same birds were blocked as the scope gave me an
> > > excellent close up view of the leaves!
> > > Cheers
> > > Tom Wilson