Spotting scopes

To: "'Dave Torr'" <>
Subject: Spotting scopes
From: "Tony Russell" <>
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:01:24 +0930
Yes Dave, I'm very good at purposely misunderstanding stuff on this net.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Torr  
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 10:23 AM
To: Tony Russell
Cc: Peter Shute; 
Subject: Spotting scopes

Quite agree - you would have to be a real contortionist to use an angled
eyepiece pointing downwards - even having it pointing "sideways" would
make life tricky. Maybe we are not understanding the original question?

On 26/09/2007, Tony Russell <> wrote:
> It seems to me that someone somewhere has got awfully muddled up. 
> Surely an angled eyepiece is normally pointing up at 45degs from the 
> scope body and one looks down into it at an opposite but similar 
> 45degs. Most scopes have a mounting foot on the underside which 
> attaches to the tripod with a quick release mechanism.  Maybe there 
> are some models which also allow rotation through 90degs to allow
viewing from the side
> but I haven't seen one of these.   Dave Torr's description of having
> eyepiece pointing down would presumably involve lying on one's back ( 
> or
> similar) looking up into the eyepiece which might I suppose suit a
> contortionist, but not your average birder.  Would this also involve
> having the tripod legs pointing up into the air attached, presumably,
> sky hooks?  I think I'd prefer to watch the rugby.
> Tony.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  
>  On Behalf Of Dave Torr
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 9:54 AM
> To: Peter Shute
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [Birding-Aus] Spotting scopes
> I can't speak for other makes but on my Kowa there is an adjustable 
> ring which allows you to rotate the scope body so the angled lens can 
> point in any direction. But I can't see this is of much use - normally

> the angled lens points up and I bend over slightly to look down into 
> it. If I had it pointing down then I would have to crouch down below 
> the scope and look up - which seems very contorted. Or am I missing 
> something?
> On 26/09/2007, Peter Shute <> wrote:
> > Not having used a scope before, I have a couple of questions about 
> > this point about the line of sight.
> > - Ben mentioned "swinging the eyepiece around".  I assume this means

> > that the eyepiece on some scopes can be swung from the up position 
> > to the straight position.  If so, can it also be swung into a down 
> > position?  If so, then that would surely be an advantage in the 
> > situation Tom describes, as one could mount the scope 20cm above the

> > binocular line of sight.
> > - Is it possible to mount a scope upside down? I.e. with the angled 
> > eyepiece angled down.  If so, then that would have the same 
> > advantage for fixed eyepieces.  If not, then why not aren't they 
> > designed like that?
> >
> > Peter Shute
> >
> >  wrote on :
> >
> > > I generally agree with all the comments about angled scopes, but 
> > > just remember that the line of sight is probably going to be about

> > > 20cm lower than your eyeline and the scope needs to be set up 
> > > accordingly - it's not normally an issue, but I have looked out 
> > > over
> > > a shrub at waders on a muddy
> > > shore, but the same birds were blocked as the scope gave me an 
> > > excellent close up view of the leaves!
> > > Cheers
> > > Tom Wilson

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