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questions about Pizzey and Knight edition 8.

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Subject: questions about Pizzey and Knight edition 8.
From: Grant Brosie <>
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:41:19 +1000 (EST)
Thanks Peter for the info. Dont get me wrong I love
the book, this is now my 3rd copy. Thanks for
answering my questions.

Cheers,
Grant Brosie
Raworth, NSW





---  wrote:

> on 13 August Grant Brosie asked several questions
> relating to taxonomy used in the new edition of
> Pizzey and Knight.
>
> As stated in the Introduction, thanks to the
> generosity and collaboration of Les Christidis and
> Walter Boles I had access to a draft of their
> forthcoming 'checklist' and have included all new
> names in that draft. Unfortunately, a couple of late
> changes by Les and Walter caught me out, resulting
> in a few discrepencies, notably my splitting of the
> Paperbark Flycatcher from the Restless, which Les
> and Walter subsequently changed their mind on and
> kept as a single species. I also missed the split in
> great egrets [ours is now Eastern Great Egret Ardea
> modesta] and osprey [Pandion cristatus rather than
> P. haliaetus].
>
> Answers to Grant's specific questions are:
> 1. Pale-vented Bush-hen is used because there are 8
> species in the genus Amaurornis and 'bush-hen' is
> being increasingly adopted as the group name for the
> genus. Hence the desirability of having a descriptor
> in the name.
>
> 2. Gould's Bronze-Cuckoo is lumped with Little B-C.
>
> 3. There is only one species of Shrike-tit.
>
> 4. Why aren't Christmas Island birds included? -
> read the Introduction. I take a biogeographic view
> of Australia rather than a political one. Secondly,
> the book is frequently criticised for being too big
> and heavy for a field guide. If we were to include
> Christmas Is., then why not Cocos-Keeling,
> Macquarie, Heard, Antarctic territories? We would
> end up with a significant increase in pages and
> weight.  David James has produced a neat guide to
> Christmas Island birds that is available in the
> tourist information centre on the island.
>
> thanks to all for their kind and constructive words
> about the new edition.
>
> Peter Menkhorst
> Melbourne
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