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FW: [Birding-Aus] John Young and his Parrots

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Subject: FW: [Birding-Aus] John Young and his Parrots
From: "Roberts, Greg" <>
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:54:51 +1100



After everything that has now been put in the public arena, if Tony believes 
that those who have questioned John Young's record have nothing to go on other 
than him "playing things close to his chest'', he is living on a different 
planet to the one I live on.

If there are "dozens'' of birders who agree with him, this is a bigger worry 
than I thought.


Greg Roberts



-----Original Message-----
From: 
 Behalf Of Tony Russell
Sent: Wednesday, 21 February 2007 9:14 AM
To: Birds
Subject: John Young and his Parrots



I have just re-read the report of John's findings on his website "John
Young Wildlife Enterprises" to refresh my mind as to what all the
current fuss is about. I have also reviewed most of the  tittle tattle
as to John's credibility currently being bandied about on this net.

I must say I find myself shocked and disappointed that there seem to be
some among us so determined to tarnish the name of such a highly
regarded naturalist without anything to go on other than the fact that
he is playing things close to his chest and hasn't yet revealed the full
details or evidence ( presuming he has some) of his reported find(s).
Is this suspicion born of envy or yet another example of how we in Oz
just like to tear down tall poppies?
Hey, let's give the guy the benefit of the doubt until he deems it
appropriate to either tell us more or pull his head in and say sorry
folks, my mistake. Let's stop being so impatient. Even if he backs down
we shouldn't lose our respect for him.
My bet is that he's either sitting at home feeling sorry and embarrassed
at having made a mistake and wondering how he can rescue the situation,
or he knows he's on safe ground and laughing his head off at all the
petty nitpicking.
I don't believe that any amount of badgering is going to get him to
disclose anything further in public until he is good and ready, so
instead of insisting that he "put up or shut up" why don't we just shut
up ourselves and wait for his next revelation, whichever way it goes.
Don't we owe him enough respect and patience for that? If he is indeed
on to something good I'm sure we'll hear about it eventually.
Until he does tell us more all the positive or negative conjecture in
the world isn't doing any good for anyone, not even those who like the
sound of their own voices, but least of all for the reputation of
Australian birders in the rest of the world.

Tony.

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