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Wattlebirds (beginner questions)

To: "Dave Torr" <>
Subject: Wattlebirds (beginner questions)
From: "Tom Tarrant" <>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 08:29:22 +1000
Hi Dave,

Where have you seen taxonomy that suggests Wattlebirds are not Honeyeaters?
Most classifications that I've come across put them in Meliphagidae, I would
be interested to see a different perspective.

Tom

On 11/28/06, Dave Torr <> wrote:

No they are not honeyeaters - they do have a brush-tipped tongue similar
to
honeyeaters (and quite a few other birds as well) but are not classified
in
the Honeyeater family. Classification of birds (and indeed other life
forms)
into "families" is part of a science called taxonomy, and different
scientists (called taxonomists) have different views on how to classify
species and families - similar appearance and/or behaviour does not
necessarily indicate the species are related in any way - just that they
have both evolved to perhaps feed on the same food source.



On 28/11/06, Peter Shute (NUW) <> wrote:
>
> On Monday, November 27, 2006 3:01 PM Michael Ramsey wrote:
>
> > Wattlebirds are honeyeaters, they are part of the honeyeater or
> > Meliphagidae family. Other birds with names that are not honeyeater
> > but are in the honeyeater family are chats, miners and spinebills to
> > name a few.
>
> What about silvereyes?  My reading suggests not, but my observations led
> me
> to assume they were.
>
> Peter Shute
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