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Origin of 'graculina'

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Subject: Origin of 'graculina'
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2006 22:59:51 -0400
 Greetings,
 
 I don't know if there is a direct translation or derivation but the following 
may help tie things together.
 
 From 'Birds - Their Latin names explained' by A E Gotch there is -
 
 Jackdaw - C(orvus) monedula
 monedula (L) a jackdaw, a daw; daw is an English word meaning a bird of the 
crow kind.
   
 Then, from 'A Dictionary of Scientific Bird Names' by James A Jobling there is 
-
 Gracula L. graculus, the Jackdaw Corvus monedula (cf. syn. genus Graculus, 
chough Pyrrhocorax).
 graculina L. graculus, the Jackdaw; -inus, resembling.
 
 The genus Gracula has two members (Howard and Moore) - the Ceylon Grackle G 
ptilogenys and the Southern Grackle or Hill Myna G religiosa
  These Gracula species are placed among the Sturnidae (Starlings). 
 
 The North American grackles of the genus Quiscalus are members of the 
Icteridae (New World Blackbirds).
 
 Jobling has a long and interesting section oassociated with Quiscalus.
 
 Quiscalus Specific name Gracula quiscala (now Quiscalus quiscula) 
 
 quiscula L quis, what; qualis, of what kind; Linnaeus's original description 
(Systema Naturae(1758), (Ed.10), book 1, p. 109) of the Purple Grackle 
Quiscalus was based on Catesby's (1731) Monedula purpurea, the Purple Daw, and 
Brown's (1725) Merops niger, the Black Bee-eater,...
 and he then goes on the expound on the confusion that appeared to reign...
 
 I found the original reference back to 'Monedula' quite interesting...
 Thank you for the exercise...
 
 Regards, Clive.
 
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Does anyone know the origin of this - is it just 'grackle-like' ? I thought

this but  the actual grackle genus is called something completely different.



Also, where do Pied Currawongs nest in the Sydney area? I've seen juveniles

of magies and butcherbirds but don't recall ever seeing these....



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