Your birding vehicle

To: "'L&L Knight'" <>, "'Birding Aus'" <>
Subject: Your birding vehicle
From: "Tony Russell" <>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 15:10:27 +1030
My carport just isn't tall enough to take an OKA or I'd have two.


-----Original Message-----
 On Behalf Of L&L Knight
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 9:41 PM
To: Birding Aus
Subject: Your birding vehicle

There's an Aus made vehicle that's missing from the list Ian - the Oka,
which for me is the ultimate offroad behemoth.  The WA cops use them
for their desert patrols, and they would appear to have the ultimate in
ground clearance [short of one of those mining truck monsters].

Regards, Laurie.

On Friday, February 24, 2006, at 09:01  PM, Ian May wrote:

> g'Day all
> The question of what is the ultimate birding vehicle is like a
> question I asked an old mate of mine, what is the best outback 4WD?
> Alex replied, "that’s a bit like asking me what the best political
> party is.  Nearly everyone thinks their choice is best but once you
> strip away the spin and BS, what you have left is useless most of the
> time and very expensive to maintain".
> Yeah right I said.   For about 20 years, Alex had the responsibility
> for dragging many stranded visitors out of the South Australian
> desert, from Oodnadatta to Innaminka and south to Arkaroola after they

> took what was considered their ultimate off road vehicle a little too
> far off the road. 
> For what its worth, here is a summary of his experience.
> Mitsubishi Pajaero/Holden Rodeo/Rav 4 etc.   The source of much
> plastic pollution across the desert
> Nissan Nevara/Pathfinder/Toyota Hilux etc etc.   Objects better used
> for the study of metal fatigue and passenger stress than rough country

> driving.
> Subaru  (The ultimate birding vehicle blah, blah?)   Well not for long
> after an inch of rain on the Strez or Birdsville track.  When the
> going gets tough fuel consumption is about as good as the V8.  Have
> you tried looking through the windscreen with binoculars? And the cost

> of parts!!!!
> Susuki! What?  They make good motorbikes and outboard motors. But try
> buying parts in the bush. Need a windscreen?  And, don’t run out of
> gears.  Excellent golf buggies though.
> Toyota Landcruiser/Prado Blah blah blah.  Remember the jingle "Toyota
> tough!  That means tough on the arse and tough on the pocket."
> Nissan Patrol?  Sorry Tony!  Can’t resist.  Rebadged Lancruiser.  The
> drivers mostly evolved from a scene in Mad Max II.  If you like eating

> dust you will love a Patrol. 
> Landrover.  With the best centre of gravity and power weight ratio, if
> you have access to two things, (1) your own oil well and (2) your own
> team of mechanics, Landrover is the ultimate off road vehicle.  And
> because the body panels are made of aluminium, when bogged in Lake
> Eyre they make good landmarks as the wreckage lasts much longer than
> steel vehicles.
> What then is the ultimate 4WD?.  Alex said, after a flood like 74, if
> the engine starts when the key is turned, that’s good but in a drought

> like the one we have just had, the one that takes you through the
> bulldust in comfort is best.
> Hope that helps..
> Regards
> Ian May
> St Helens, Tasmania.

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