Is it time to move Birding Aus to Yahoogroups?

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Subject: Is it time to move Birding Aus to Yahoogroups?
From: "Gunnar Engblom (Kolibri Expeditions)" <>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:46:34 -0500

With all due respect, I think Birding Aus is the only listserver I am on
that does not have it as mandatory to subscribe to be able to post. This
is a reasonable minimum. Since probably the list server address is out
there on the Internet somewhere, even if the emails of the subscribers
and the posters are encrypted in some way, if the listserver address is
not, it means we will keep on getting junk if you do not have to be a
member. Even within the time this has been discussed on the list I
believw I still have received some AUS non birding junk recently (fast
deleted - so I have no proof no more.).


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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Russell Woodford  
Enviado el: Martes, 23 de Agosto de 2005 02:17 a.m.
Para: Gunnar Engblom (Kolibri Expeditions)
CC: 'Birding Aus'
Asunto: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Is it time to move Birding Aus to Yahoogroups?

Thanks to everybody who has contributed to this non-bird-related thread!

A few points:

At the moment you don't have to be subscribed to birding-aus to send  
a message to the mailing list.  Quite a few contributors are not  
subscribed - some have good reasons, and at least a couple of  
regulars are not able to subscribe.  I don't want to limit the  
current Birding-Aus to subscribers only.

Andrew Taylor has pointed out several times over the last couple of  
years that it is almost impossible for addresses to be harvested  
automatically from the Archive  (i.e. by a bot or webcrawler).  A  
human could probably do it though, but I don't think many large-scale  
spammers bother with the human touch.  We'll have a bit more control  
of what's on the archive in the new version.  It might even be wise  
to drop email addresses off the database altogether, and just have  
sigs - that way if you do want your email address in the archive, you  
could include it in your sig or footer.

Most of the spam people are getting doesn't come from the mailing  
list itself.  For every message that unfortunately does get through  
the filters, there are dozens that don't - and yes, I see every  
single bounce.  If the amount of spam became untenable, I'd be the  
FIRST to complain!  Whilst I am sending this message from my work  
account, I have dialup at home so I can sympathise with those of you  
who have to download and delete unwanted messages.  BUT - you won't  
get a message from the mailing list that is over 18Kb.

Anyway, your concerns are noted.  When I get a chance I'll  
investigate what other options we have.

Russell Woodford
Birding-Aus List Owner

Geelong   Victoria   Australia

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