So long as we are consistent!
Just consider what would happen if you were in France - as far as I
know they consider all their overseas "territories" to be an integral
part of France (which is why they claimed that testing bombs in the
Pacific was the same as testing them in Europe - it's all part of
France!) so you could get a really long list for France on that basis!
Further research reveals that embassies are legally regarded as
"territory" of the country that runs them (which is why you can claim
asylum by going into an embassy) so if we did include the 50+
embassies/high commisions that we have you could get quite a large
list!
On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 13:44:04 +1100, Margaret Roadknight
<> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Yes, I agree that including embassies is pushing things a little!! It is
> simply too difficult to regulate or define. We'd all be going crazy visiting
> embassies!!
>
> I think that Tony Palliser's definition includes "territories", not just any
> political ground, such as embassies. Even this seems puzzling to me, as
> birds seen on Christmas or Heard Islands are probably just as attached to
> Australian ecological boundaries as Santiago!!
>
> Perhaps the limits should be defined more by bio-regional boundaries. The
> best 'Australian list' would be defined by the continental shelf (hence
> including all the major offshore islands) and the 200NM limit for oceanic
> birds. But then there is the difficulty in Northern Australia, where the
> shelf pretty much joins PNG etc.
>
> Margaret
>
> >From: "Graham Labrooy" <>
> >To:
> >Subject: FW: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Birds in Chile
> >Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:33:51 +1000
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: Dave Torr <>
> >>Reply-To: Dave Torr <>
> >>To: Graham Labrooy <>
> >>CC:
> >>Subject: Re: [BIRDING-AUS] Birds in Chile
> >>Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:50:10 +1100
> >>
> >>The only "official" list that I know of for checking Aussie birders'
> >>totals is http://users.bigpond.net.au/palliser/pelagic/totals.html
> >>maintained by Tony Palliser, so if you aspire to post your total for
> >>others to see then you would need to adhere to his rules - and I guess
> >>he excludes embassies.
> >>
> >>Irrespctive of what the "legal" status if an embassy is (I did a quick
> >>Google but could not find an answer) I think you will find most
> >>birders would not include them.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 11:42:07 +1000, Graham Labrooy
> >><> wrote:
> >> > Hi there,
> >> >
> >> > I posted a message a while back about Australian lists. I have just
> >>returned
> >> > from a visit to Santiago, Chile, where I was able to visit the
> >>Australian
> >> > embassy, in Las Condes. Although the weather was poor I managed to
> >>identify
> >> > Austral thrush, Picui Ground Dove, Eared Dove and Southern Lapwing
> >>whilst
> >> > there. Apart from adding to my (very limited) Chilean-list, do these
> >>birds
> >> > qualify for an Australian list as well?? It is Australian soil is it
> >>not?
> >> > Political territory??
> >> >
> >> > Maybe I am way off the mark, but I would like to know what is standard,
> >>as I
> >> > am only new to birding in Australia.
> >> >
> >> > Thanking you in advance (and thank you to Russell for his reply last
> >>time),
> >> > Graham
> >> >
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