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Button-quail Sought by Police

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Subject: Button-quail Sought by Police
From: Carol Probets <>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:59:47 +1100
A late addition to this thread as I've had a busy week and only just catching up on emails but I wanted to add a few thoughts on this topic. (Note that these are meant as general comments and not necessarily referring to the button-quail example which started off this thread. I don't know enough about that example to comment on it.)

As a birding guide it is often tempting to keep the best locations secret, however the way I look at it is like this... Guiding is much more than just knowing what location to go to. People pay for a complete birding experience - from the planning and logistics through to the skill of actually finding the birds, the most up-to-date and local knowledge, transport, education and discussion, and even the refreshments which may be provided along the way. In other words, paying for a guide can be a much easier and more effective way of utilising limited time in an area that the client may not be familiar with, than trying to do it all by themselves. Whenever I give locations for my sightings in the public arena, I do so with a fair amount of confidence that this will not result in a net reduction in the work I get. In fact I believe that the extra promotion of the area and its birds can only benefit the industry overall.

However, for obvious reasons there are a few cases where I don't disclose an exact location in a public forum. These include private property or other sites which aren't publicly accessible, and breeding locations for rare species or species which might be vulnerable to disturbance or poaching. This has nothing to do with being a guide, but something that should apply to all birders (and has been said many times before on this forum). Providing such information for scientific or conservation purposes is a different matter and I'm more than happy to do this. I believe such knowledge is vitally important.

As an aside, may I add some comments on guiding. People who have never worked as a guide might be tempted to think it's all fun and easy! Believe me, despite its joys it's far from an easy way to make a living. Any profit is eaten away by vehicle running costs, insurance costs, licence fees and regulations, etc, and for each day of guiding there's a large amount of unseen work in planning, preparation, not to mention marketing and the ever-increasing red tape. The necessity for early morning and late afternoon as the optimum times for birding result in very long and tiring days, not to mention night spotlighting as well. Then there's bad weather to contend with, and the stress of "surefire" birds which suddenly fail to appear. ("It was here yesterday" is no consolation to someone who's paid good money for the experience!) Despite all this, when things go well it's an immense joy and I feel truly privileged to work doing what I love.

Sorry for straying somewhat from the original topic! I hope it provides a little bit of understanding and tolerance or at least food for thought.

Cheers

Carol





At 2:02 PM +1030 25/1/05, Tony Russell wrote:
Hi, my two bob's worth.
 Alan's note raises some points for me.
 Many's the time I've sought information on where to find certain birds
and found some operators very loathe to divulge the locations of their
local "specials". Whilst this can be frustrating I can also fully
understand a professional guide wanting to protect his/her product
knowledge in the same way as anyone else in business has to. However, I
wouldn't necessarily ascribe this rationale to Del's note.
 I have also come across some non-guiding birders who just don't like
giving out information. Their attitude seems to be "find your own birds
!", which seems a bit miserable.
Personally I now give information freely to any birder (once they
establish their bona fides as a genuine birder). It saves me having to
take them around the place. But when I was doing a bit of guiding I was
a lot more cautious about giving away my information without being paid
for it. One could argue that such " nature" information should be in the
public domain and available to all for free - well, that's Ok for those
not trying to make a living , but if you are depending on the income
it's a different matter.

Tony Russell
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