I don´t really know why anyone should discuss Italians on a aussie list. The
statement by Denise shows a lot of ignorance (and do I trace xenofobia???).
General statements does like this does not help bird conservation.
Let´s look at some facts.
1. Spaghetti bolognesi contains tomato, onions and minced meat (preferably
beef) not birds.
2. There has been a traditional hunt in Italy for songbirds (as well as in
many other parts of Europe), but this hunting is illegal and it has in most
places diminished in recent years, much thanks to a strong conservation
group in Italy - LIPU. While there still is a lot of illegal hunting in
Italy (and elsewhere in Southern Europe), the work of Lipu shows that not
all Italians don´t care about birds. Check this UK support group for the
work of LIPU for more a more balanced view about Italians and birds. There
are many problems in Italy regarding bird conservation, but the work of LIPU
is carried out by Italians, so general statements about Italian people
particulary only seeing birds as food does not help the cause.
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/fernwood/LIPU1a.htm
3. Yellow Chat does not occur in Italy. So "italian fishermen" have not
aquired the taste for these particular birds in Italy. Any illegal hunting
should naturally be dealt with - but to imply that a bird consequently is
rare becuase of the existance of an ethnic group is vastly exaggerated and
insulting to this group.
Saludos
Gunnar Engblom (Swedish birdwatcher in Peru)
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Lima, Peru
Birdwatching in South America
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-----Mensaje original-----
De: Goodfellow <>
Para: birding Aus <>
Fecha: Martes, 27 de Febrero de 2001 05:54 a.m.
Asunto: [BIRDING-AUS] Italian people and birds
>
>Several million songbirds are trapped or shot each year in Italy (mainly
>southern Italy I understand), and I believe that most are eaten, not
>because people are desperate for meat, but because they prefer the taste
>and texture of songbirds to duck and chicken. I'm told there was a
>similar problem with Italian fishermen working estuaries in the Top
>Endsome years ago in that they went in for trapping and shooting
>songbirds that then ended up in spaghetti bolognaise. Apparently Yellow
>Chat was a favourite! Now you all know the real reason why they're hard
>to see!
>Denise
>
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>Denise Goodfellow (Lawungkurr Maralngurra)
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