Dear Denise
Thanks for letting me in on your background... Just a cuase of precaution
...not to generalize ..as the topic does... are you with me?
Good luck in you efforts. All illegal hunting should be sanctioned whether
it is in Australia, Italia or Peru.
Yours sincerely
Gunnar
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Gunnar Engblom
Kolibri Expeditions,
Lima, Peru
Birdwatching in South America
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De: Goodfellow <>
Para: Kolibri Expeditions <>; birding Aus
<>
Fecha: Martes, 27 de Febrero de 2001 04:11 p.m.
Asunto: RE: [BIRDING-AUS] Italian people and birds
>Dear Gunnar
>Obviously you know nothing about me or you wouldn't be calling me
>xenophobic or my remarks insulting to Italians.
>
>Italian fishermen in the Top End of the Northern Territory were
>prosecuted for catching small birds including Yellow Chat. The late John
>McKean, a birder well-known to many on this list, was called upon to
>testify at one trial that I know of.
>
>The NT Conservation Commision probably wouldn't have minded if these
>fishermen had only taken the occasional few birds, but many were killed.
>And they WERE cooking them up with tomatoes and onions. The little birds
>replaced the mincemeat, understandable considering that the men probably
>weren't equipped to shoot buffalo and there are no shops, butcher or
>otherwise, on the remote down-reaches of the Mary River. Plus these men
>told the rangers they preferred the flavour of the small birds to that of
>ducks.
>
>These Italian men weren't the only ones to kill birds. A well-known
>biologist once told me that he and his mates out bush set out to try
>every Top End native bird. And one of the reasons emu and a few other
>birds are scarce in the Top End is that they're hunted. Every time such a
>bird raises its head on my Aboriginal relatives' country it is at risk.
>
>I eat a lot of things that many of European extraction, would regard as
>weird. As my older (Aboriginal) sister, Esther Managku once said to my
>daughter after a meal of goanna and long yam, 'My Dada (younger sister)
>she eat anything!' I don't care what others eat although in Australia I
>would prefer if people tucked into kangaroo to beef and lamb because of
>the environmental damage that cattle and sheep cause. However with small
>birds it was the quantity taken that was of concern.
>
>Nowhere in my email did I write that 'Italians don't care about birds'.
>Many do - as a specialist guide I've run trips for Italian birdwatchers.
>And I understand that other Mediterranean peoples hunt birds - my
>ex-husband was a birding guide in Greece.
>
>By the same token many Territorians don't really give a damn about birds.
> As individuals they'd never want to harm one, but they're happy to
>bulldoze habitat or graze cattle and buffalo that do incredible damage to
>fragile grasslands and ground-dwelling birds. I think I'd rather such
>people ate the birds and left the country intact.
>Yours sincerely
>Denise
>
>
>
>
>Denise Goodfellow (Lawungkurr Maralngurra)
>
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