Well, as regional coordinator for South Oz, I know of no-one who doesn't
record Feral / Rock Pigeons. I've never had a query on this.
They all go in, just like the ship assisted crows and magpies.
Tony.
To: Rory Poulter - Atlas Project <>
Cc: <>; <>;
<>
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 1:42 PM
Subject: Atlas Results
> Rory -
>
> Good to see some preliminary indications of what the Atlas project is
> discovering. A query regarding one item:
>
> At 08:48 AM 22/02/01 +1100, you wrote:
> >The Feral Pigeon is showing a decline.
>
> I am just wondering if this is possibly a result of some atlassers not
> recording Rock Doves (Columba livia) when they see them (possibly because
> they think that the flocks they see are actually owned by people - though
> flying free). I believe that in the course of the first Atlas project
> (1977-1981) Rock Doves were called Feral Pigeons in the information kits
> provided. Could this methodological change between the first and second
> projects be a source of bias?
>
> Could it be that some people are confused about the two terms for this
> species are are less familiar with the former, and maybe think that the
> birds they see are not really 'wild' Rock Doves but 'only' Feral Pigeons?
> I note that you use the latter term yourself in your message whereas the
> Atlas Record Forms use the former.
>
> How many atlassers dutifully note sightings of this species in their
> surveys? I have heard at least one person say that they don't bother to
> record the species because of the possibility that they are domestic
birds.
> Doesn't the project ask for records of ALL free-flying (or free-walking
or
> free-swimming) birds seen in the course of Atlas surveys - even if they
> could be somebody's property or an escapee from aviculture? It might be
> helpful to get some feedback from atlassers on what they have been doing
in
> this respect.
>
> I believe that, if it's not obviously under someone's control, it is vital
> that we record it. How else are we going to track the establishment and
> spread of ferals?
>
> Cheers,
> Hugo
>
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