Allen Richards wrote:
It's called Golden Bronze-Cuckoo in my
edition of "What Bird is That?"
Allen this book is no longer in print, any person new to
birding with the fifth edition of Simpson & Day or the latest Pizzy
& Knight would find no mention of a Golden Bronze-Cuckoo and would be
confused by the resent postings to birding-aus.
Lawrie Conole
wrote:
I don't think it's fair to suggest that
Edwin was incorrect - the race
of Shining Bronze-Cuckoo that we have in
Australia, ie. Chrysococcyx
lucidus plagosus, was always known in the
past as the Golden
Bronze-Cuckoo. Most of us don't call
subspecies/races by their
particular names in print, but we often refer
to Yellow Rosellas, Mallee
Ringnecks, etc. in other
discussions!
Same again Lawrie in the past. To give new
birders a chance to follow what is being written on birding-aus the cuckoo
should be referred to as the Shining Bronze-Cuckoo subspecies Chrysococcyx
lucidus plagosus and not Golden
Bronze-Cuckoo.
Phil Veerman wrote:
What does this relate to? Golden
Bronze-Cuckoo is the old name for Shining Bronze-Cuckoo. Or at least the one
I grew up with.
Precisely Phil it is the old
name.
Tony wrote
Pizzey's old book shows Golden
Bronze-cuckoo, Broad-billed Cuckoo, and
Green Back as alternate names for
the Shining Bronze-cuckoo ( Chrysococcyx
lucidus). See P 198,
item 370
We have it again (old book), can't we move
with the times gents.
Rohan Clark wrote:
Golden Bronze-Cuckoo isn't just another name
for the ANY Shining
Bronze-Cuckoo it actually refers to the Australian
subspecies Chrysococcyx
lucidus plagosus which can be separated in the
field from the New Zealand
subspecies C. lucidus lucidus. Just as Yellow
Rosella equals Crimson
Rosella, and Black-backed Magpie and White-backed
Magpie equal Australian
Magpie etc etc. Not surprisingly the Aust bird
displays more golden-bronze
on the breast bars, head, neck and back c.f.
the more uniform green of the
New Zealand bird (the later occurring on
the east coast of Aust over
summer?)
No doubt HANZAB would have more
info.
Rohan you are preaching to the converted and
you state that it is a subspecies, I rest my case. And not all people
new to birding and a lot of birding-aus subscribers are, can afford
HANZB.
Regards
Ian Clayton
Birds
& Bush Tours
PO Box 6037, TMC, Townsville, Qld,
Australia. 4810
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To a man ornithologists are tall, slender,
and bearded, so
that they can stand motionless for hours, imitating
kindly
trees, as they watch for birds.
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