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Subject: Re: [ts-7000] RE: ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical network stacks?
From: Walter Marvin <>
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 19:58:43 -0800 (PST)
A full TCP stack is not a trivial exercise, but you can steal most of the code, 
and eliminate most of it.Still, its a multi month project and much more work 
than IP routing solutions
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On Tue, 11/5/13, Jonathan Leslie <> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [ts-7000] RE: ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical 
network stacks?
 To: "" <>
Date: Tuesday, November 5, 2013, 5:09 PM
















  



  


    
      
      
       LOL.  I only run
 as root. what about this IP stack, what's the difference
 if its running under userspace code or part of the OS?
  Seems like to me you are only changing who owns the
 code.   So the ts-8700 has 4
 NIC's???



      
 From:
 "" <>
  To:
 
  Sent:
 Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:03 PM
  Subject:
 [ts-7000] RE: ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical
 network stacks?
   

  



  


    
      
      
       You can use raw ethernet frames to communicate
 over a specific NIC under Linux. However, this imposes the
 requirement that any application using that method must run
 with root privilege. It also means having to craft a
 substantial portion of an already working IP stack in your
 own userspace code. Not trivial.

 ---In 
 <> wrote:

 when you say raw
 ethernet are you talking sockets connections or something
 more "raw" than that?

From: Walter Marvin
 <>
  To:
 
  Sent: Tuesday, November
 5, 2013 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re:
  [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical
 network stacks?
   

  



  


    
      
      
       The same effect, however, can be done using raw
 Ethernet on the receiving side

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 On Mon, 11/4/13, Eric Robishaw <> wrote:



 Subject: Re: [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2)
 identical network stacks?

  To: ""
 <>

Date: Monday, November 4, 2013, 9:08 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        Maybe this is too simple... But why not just use

  Udp broadcasting, let each device receive all the
 messages

  and filter out what they don't need.  No need
 for

  special routing, etc..

 

  On Monday, November 4, 2013, Walter Marvin  wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        The mac address can be easily found. The problem

  here is that Linux won't accept the same sub network
 on

  two different interfaces and the IPs of the remote boxes

  can't be changed. This has to be handled by routing

  below the interface level, or raw Ethernet.

 

 

 

 

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  On Mon, 11/4/13, Joseph Bouchard <>
 wrote:

 

 

 

  Subject: Re: [ts-7000] RE: ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at
 least

  2) identical network stacks?

 

   To: 

 

Date: Monday, November 4, 2013, 5:39 PM

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

      

 

        

 

        

 

         Hi,

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   I've been following along in the background,
 reading

 

   about half of

 

  

 

   what's been said, and understanding less, but I

 

   haven't seen anyone

 

  

 

   suggest this...

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   Can you use ARP to an advantage here? The normal way

 

   I've used ARP is

 

  

 

   when we have a terminal server which has not yet been

 

   configured... you

 

  

 

   arp the mac address to a hostname on your PC, then
 connect

 

   to the still

 

  

 

   unconfigured box, and configure it.  Your computer
 knows

  how

 

   to find

 

  

 

   that remote box by it's mac address, even if the

  remote

 

   box doesn't yet

 

  

 

   know what it's IP address is yet.  Can we do that

  here?

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   Imagine this implementation... You have 4 boxes which
 all

 

   want to have

 

  

 

   the same IP address, but they all have different MAC

 

   addresses, which

 

  

 

   I'll refer to MAC1, MAC2, etc.  On your TS7800 you

  have

 

   a plain old

 

  

 

   single interface eth0 with the address of your choice,
 and

  a

 

   typical

 

  

 

   socket listener.  When a client connects, you accept(),

  like

 

   you

 

  

 

   normally would.  It's been years since I've
 dealt

 

   with the addr structs

 

  

 

   the sockets use, but I'm thinking there is a way to

  tie

 

   a mac address to

 

  

 

   the socket, or lacking that use arp.  At that point
 your

 

   file descriptor

 

  

 

   is working correctly and you don't care about IP

 

   addresses, you are just

 

  

 

   talking back and forth op that open socket.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   Maybe I've missed some critical detail, but the
 point

  is

 

   when you use

 

  

 

   mac addresses, and/or hostnames, and you don't
 worry

 

   about addresses any

 

  

 

   more.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   Good luck,

 

  

 

   Joe

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

      

 

       

 

  

 

      

 

      

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

     

      

 

     

     

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

     

      

 

     

     

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



    
     

    
    




 
    
                    
                            

    
     

    
    




      

    
     

    
    






  











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